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milesb

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Brake Squeal Returns/Xenon Headlamp
07/08/05 at 20:35:53

Well, the front brake squeal has returned after yesterday's sanding/greasing/anti-squeal compound job. I assume the next logical step would be to replace the pads ('02 bike only has 1,617 miles on it with OEM pads)?

Gotta do something about the speedo rattle, too.

On a positive note, it's a beautiful night here in the Raleigh, NC area. Went for a cruise around town. The Xenon headlamp makes a huge difference - well worth the $16/set at Wallyworld.

Miles

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Re: Brake Squeal Returns/Xenon Headlamp
Reply #1 - 07/09/05 at 07:08:35

Boy, you got it goin' on don't you? My spouse had a problem with the squeal on hers, but it never was a problem on mine.

Let me ask. Do you use the front brake as much as the rear brake? Have you done any hard braking with the front (being careful not to lock it up)?

Did everything look like this when you took it apart?

Speedo rattle? Yeah, that an aggravation too. I wonder why the Suzuki engineers never fixed this issue after 19 years...

This is how I fixed it on ours....silicone rubber on the mounting springs.

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Reply #2 - 07/09/05 at 10:22:43

On the brake job, I actually used your instructions found in the tech section (per the pic). Thanks, by the way.

I was thinking about the braking myself as i just road up. I generally use the back brake more, especially in city traffic. I've tried a few "moderate" stops with the front brake in hopes of seating the caliper - maybe I need to give it few "hard" attempts in a parking lot or something.

When I removed and sanded the pads, I didn't use brake cleaner on the sufaces, should I?

Thanks for the info on the speedo bolts. When I have occasion to pop the tank, I'll try the silicone. I have some thin cork pads (about 3/8 diameter) that I might try to slide under the rubber grommet and trim off to see if that helps. Seems as though the speedo stops rattling if I give it light pressure with my hand.

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Savage_Rob Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Mechanically Inclined Amateur Posts: 6972 Texas (Dallas area) Gender:	Re: Brake Squeal Returns/Xenon Headlamp Reply #3 - 07/09/05 at 14:46:10 I did the exact same thing for my speedo and I also used some STP spray silicone lube (the kind that dries to a film instead of staying wet) between the rubber gasket and the tank. I can't remember who suggested that (maybe Sunny?) but it works great.
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Re: Brake Squeal Returns/Xenon Headlamp
Reply #4 - 07/10/05 at 08:12:52

milesb wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:07:

On the brake job, I actually used your instructions found in the tech section (per the pic). Thanks, by the way.

You are welcome...

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I was thinking about the braking myself as i just road up. I generally use the back brake more, especially in city traffic. I've tried a few "moderate" stops with the front brake in hopes of seating the caliper - maybe I need to give it few "hard" attempts in a parking lot or something.

Just be careful...not too hard

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When I removed and sanded the pads, I didn't use brake cleaner on the sufaces, should I?

Nope. The sanding should have removed any glaze, grease, or whatever. Did you put any grease inside the rubber boots on those alignment pins so they would "float" on the rotor?

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Thanks for the info on the speedo bolts. When I have occasion to pop the tank, I'll try the silicone. I have some thin cork pads (about 3/8 diameter) that I might try to slide under the rubber grommet and trim off to see if that helps. Seems as though the speedo stops rattling if I give it light pressure with my hand.

I dunno. I came up with the silicone idea with an empty gas tank. The vibration seems to be sort of harmonic at a certain engine RPM in each gear, so when I took off the tank, I gave the tank some solid "thumps" and listened. I noticed that the springs seemed to be (to me) the source of the rattle. So I embedded them in rubber. The springs are what hold the speedo in the hole in the tank, and for me that stopped it

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Reply #5 - 07/12/05 at 09:12:55

miles,
funny, these are the same exact 2 problems im having. although i do know my breaks are up for replacing soon, which is probably why they squeal louder than a redheaded stepchild getting beaten with a hose. As for the spedometer, i have no clue how to do all that. do you think a dealership could do the fixes you describe or is that against policy to make such adjustments?

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Reply #6 - 07/14/05 at 18:02:16

lcs151 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:07:

miles,
funny, these are the same exact 2 problems im having. although i do know my breaks are up for replacing soon, which is probably why they squeal louder than a redheaded stepchild getting beaten with a hose. As for the spedometer, i have no clue how to do all that. do you think a dealership could do the fixes you describe or is that against policy to make such adjustments?

Lauren,

While I didn't offer the tips on fixing the problem (others posted those) I have found advice posted here to be quite sound and the fix is usually very easy to do when you follow the directions posted either here or in the tech section.

Given that, I'm sure a dealer would be happy to do the work, unfortunately, you'll likely pay a premium to have it done.

Miles

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Re: Brake Squeal Returns/Xenon Headlamp
Reply #7 - 07/15/05 at 06:36:26

milesb wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:07:

Lauren,

While I didn't offer the tips on fixing the problem (others posted those) I have found advice posted here to be quite sound and the fix is usually very easy to do when you follow the directions posted either here or in the tech section.

Given that, I'm sure a dealer would be happy to do the work, unfortunately, you'll likely pay a premium to have it done.

Miles

I bet you're wondering how I got the incentive to fix this problem 4 years ago? Right?

We took my spouse's new bike to the dealer with a request to fix a "noise in the speedo"....

It was there for a week and when we took it for a test ride the noise was still there. Then, after we informed the service manager that the noise was still present, he took it for a ride. AND when he came back he said that he didn't hear anything.....

The rest is history. I fixed it.

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