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slickiverson YaBB Newbies Offline Posts: 31 Norway Gender:	Re: LS650 Parts that have changed '86 to Present Reply #30 - 02/11/14 at 17:58:49 Has there been any changes on the starter clutch gear (the big one) over the years?
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Re: LS650 Parts that have changed '86 to Present
Reply #32 - 02/12/14 at 19:40:31

Dont you mean '86?

I bought a starter clutch gear on ebay. It said in the sales ad that it would fit my LS650 '87.

Part no. 12600-24831

I received the gear last week, but it is smaller than the old gear in my engine.

verslagen1 wrote on 02/11/14 at 20:36:59:

slickiverson wrote on 02/11/14 at 17:58:49:

Has there been any changes on the starter clutch gear (the big one) over the years?

2012...12600-24831
2000...12600-24831
1996...12600-24831
1986...~~12600-24830~~ 12600-24831

Appears to have been changed in '96 but is interchangeable.

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Re: LS650 Parts that have changed '86 to Present
Reply #33 - 02/12/14 at 20:03:28

slickiverson wrote on 02/12/14 at 19:40:31:

Dont you mean '86?

I bought a starter clutch gear on ebay. It said in the sales ad that it would fit my LS650 '87.

Part no. 12600-24831

I received the gear last week, but it is smaller than the old gear in my engine.

The fishe showed it only as an assembly, meaning that part number is several parts.
The outside would have to be the same to be interchangeable.
And all years from '86 to '95 showed the same number.

So was it the inside that was different?

You only bought the big gear and it didn't fit?

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Re: LS650 Parts that have changed '86 to Present
Reply #34 - 02/12/14 at 20:55:09

This is the sales ad:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/380768946437?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m...

I haven't got hold of the flywheel puller yet, so it is difficult to measure. I don't know if it fits on the shaft, but the old starter clutch gear is about 50mm (give or take) bigger in perimeter than the new starter clutch gear.

Old starter clutch gear - 80 teeth
New starter clutch gear - 73 teeth

verslagen1 wrote on 02/12/14 at 20:03:28:

slickiverson wrote on 02/12/14 at 19:40:31:

Dont you mean '86?

I bought a starter clutch gear on ebay. It said in the sales ad that it would fit my LS650 '87.

Part no. 12600-24831

I received the gear last week, but it is smaller than the old gear in my engine.

The fishe showed it only as an assembly, meaning that part number is several parts.
The outside would have to be the same to be interchangeable.
And all years from '86 to '95 showed the same number.

So was it the inside that was different?

You only bought the big gear and it didn't fit?

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Re: LS650 Parts that have changed '86 to Present
Reply #35 - 02/13/14 at 12:11:14

slickiverson wrote on 02/12/14 at 20:55:09:

I haven't got hold of the flywheel puller yet, so it is difficult to measure. I don't know if it fits on the shaft, but the old starter clutch gear is about 50mm (give or take) bigger in perimeter than the new starter clutch gear.

Old starter clutch gear - 80 teeth
New starter clutch gear - 73 teeth

While not certain, I would have to suspect they sent you the wrong part.
The change in gear size would require a change in location of the pinion gear.
And I don't think the parts fishe would indicate it's possible by striking out the old p/n and listing the new next to it.

One thing to note is that 12600-24831 is a generic p/n rather than a bike specific p/n.

I've noticed in the bay of fleas, that quite often burgman parts are captured in my search net.

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Re: LS650 Parts that have changed '86 to Present
Reply #36 - 02/13/14 at 19:24:46

verslagen1 wrote on 02/13/14 at 12:11:14:

I've noticed in the bay of fleas, that quite often burgman parts are captured in my search net.

Yep. I ordered a complete set of head bolts for an Savage 650 on Ebay and got a set of Kawasaki 650 head bolts. It will cost more to ship them back than they cost to buy. Sad

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