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Reply #15 - 09/27/24 at 09:27:20
 
What’s in the stage 1 kit?

A 50 pilot jet and 150 main jet should be the biggest jets you need. Narrow down the white spacer on the needle some or get a couple washers at the hardware store to replace the white spacer.  I think 2 number 4 washers should do it.

White spacer mod ---> https://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1104205157/0
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Reply #16 - 09/27/24 at 12:09:38
 
Not sure off the top of my head. I will check when I get home from work. I will read into the white spacer mod. I plan on doing a cam/piston upgrade down the line. I heard the Mikuni's were superior. Any thoughts on that?
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Reply #17 - 09/27/24 at 15:43:46
 
Did you receive genuine Mikuni jets and parts ?
If not, that could be troublesome.
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Reply #18 - 09/28/24 at 04:11:56
 
To Lancer’s point, you want genuine Mikuni jets for the stock CV carb or if you switch to a Mikuni VM36 slide carb.  Lancer sells a VM36 carb kit and also genuine Mikuni jets for either carb.  As well as his other goodies - hot cams and pistons.

The 6sigma website is a bit of a black box.  Even when I added the stage 1 kit to my cart (playing around with them), it didn’t tell me what I would get for $50+ bucks.  No thanks.

If you don’t want to buy through Lancer, you can buy genuine Mikuni jets from JetsRUs.com.  They are like $5-$8 each and like $8 shipping.  That’s much better than a $50 kit that you don’t know what you’re getting.  They also have the “washer/spacers” for the needle, or you can get a half-dozen of the right sized washers at a hardware store for less than $1.

The Mikuni VM36 is a great carb.  Lancer and his followers can attest and he’s sold many to happy members.  I like the VM36 a lot.  I also like the Keihin PWK38 a lot.  The biggest difference when running a slide carburetor is throttle response.

DragBikeMike did a great “carburetor shootout” technical post comparing several carbs.  Link here —> http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1585461605



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Reply #19 - 09/28/24 at 09:21:08
 
Derp , The Mikuni VM36 or VM38 both are fantastic carbs. Easy to tune , easy to get jets  and parts. Once tuned properly , it’s all throttle. You will wonder why you even bothered with the stock carb , that can be troublesome. 36mm for a stock engine & 38mm for a modded engine. It makes a huge difference in acceleration. The VM carb has been quite literally used on a million race bikes in the last 65 years. Why ? Because it works !!
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Reply #20 - 09/28/24 at 10:46:35
 
Great testimonial, Ruttly!  Where do you draw the line on stock vs modified?  I think Lancer tried the 38mm with his hot rod and dropped down to the 36mm for better performance.  My memory is bad, but I think it had to do with the velocity of the mixture through the intake valves into the motor or maybe it was better fuel atomization (or both).

I’m toying with the idea of experimenting with a PWK36 instead of my PWK38.  My bike is what I’d consider stock - just a UNI foam filter and Dyna muffler (no hardcore Stage 3 stuff like hot cam, hi-comp piston, bigger valves, porting, etc…).
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Reply #21 - 09/30/24 at 10:47:31
 
Stock or modified would relate to engine internals. Carb and exhaust mods still stock. Porting , oversized bores & camshafts, etc , now your in the modified camp.  I don’t build radical engines anymore. I build fun , forgiving & fast engines. My preference is the VM38 for my bike. It has some mods too. I have no experience with the PWK , but decades with the VM. For me a big single is satisfaction personified. My tracker is my daily , she has earned her nickname (The Healer). It’s not how is looks , she’s a looker , it’s about how she makes you feel. It’s my mental reset button , the difference of how you felt when you got on as to when you get off. 0 , zip , nada flat spots in acceleration , all throttle , idle to WOT , super linear , smooth , powerful and so so satisfying !  Cool
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Reply #22 - 10/01/24 at 22:33:42
 
I'm in favor of Baffle removal. I'd feel a lot better about it all if I wasn't baffled by what I'm watching.

If it leans through corners it's got Healing properties. Having the Oomph to accelerate Out of a corner increases the rate of healing.
Honing riding skills, reading Twist of the Wrist ,YouTube , learning how to use what it will do right up to Sphincter Clinch,, and if you're the Skilled rider I am, being able to use everything it can do is beyond what is going to happen.
I guarantee you every gun I own is a more accurate Thing than I can be.
And every bike I ever had was able to Do a lot more than I could ever get out of it.
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Reply #23 - 10/02/24 at 04:41:27
 
Sorry for the late reply. Thank you for the advice. I have the stock carb not the Mikuni. And I already have had the kit sitting around for a while, I have just been real busy with other projects. The boat restoration takes up so much time. Spent all weekend working just on the trailer. Whenever you order from 6sigma, they tailor it to your bike and elevation level and what not. And give a few extra jets to dial it in. I believe it has 48 through 50 pilots and 148 through 150 mains. Not sure off the top of my head.  As of right now, I am getting the bike set up for comfort and light touring. Forwards, handlebars, backrest, luggage rack, windshield, suspension etc. on my radar. In the future, whenever I get around to doing a piston and cam, I will certainly upgrade to the Mikuni at the same time, but I have no idea how long that will be from now.

Yes JOG, I agree about removing baffle. These bikes are just too quiet in stock form. In my defense, I'm used to Harley's and Supersports... Not exactly known for their quietness lol. Once I got into Sportsters I stopped caring about going above 70. lol
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