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06/06/16 at 20:35:49
 
Here's the good bad and ugly.
I have a 2001 glacier blue with 8700 mi that I picked up with a plug leak.  

Good.  Thanks to many a write up here I was able to pull the top and fix my plug leak successfully.  

Front tire was dry rotted so i scored a front and rear that were mounted.   Still had the nibbies on em.    Needed a jack stand and scoped out the 2×4 build... Again many thanks.

Picked up a dyna pipe and it went ok.   Need to do an offset adapter but it fit real nice.   Figured that with the new pipe i would jet and shave the spacer... Thats where things got tricky.  

I have 2/3 of the spacer and a 152.5 jet with a stock airbox and could not get over 45mph..  Cut it back to a 150 and there was limited gain.   Thought it might be the vacuum line on the petcock being cracked but that didnt correct the issue either... Everything was running ok prior to shaving the spacer and jetting.  

FiGood news though i tried to get the exact part from the stealership by work.   She told me they could order for 8 bucks... Asked her for some bulk hose and a foot cost a buck.  

Needless to say I am new to carbs on this thing... Little different than those on weedeaters and lawn mowers...looking for some guidance; Is this a needle issue or could i have missed Tdc on the reset and retarded this thing?  

Thoughts answers or lashings for doing too much in one sitting... Any insight is appreciated.
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Reply #1 - 06/06/16 at 22:58:42
 
Lashes given for doin' too much in one go,... but your adjustments don't sound too unreasonable...

1.   Is your new muffler intact?... or has it been debaffled?...
2.   What's your elevation?... a 152# may be a bit large.  What pilot did you put in?...
3.   Why do you think TDC might be off?...  did you adjust valves?...

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Reply #2 - 06/06/16 at 23:35:40
 
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... I'm sensing a petcock issue.
aaaaaaaaand a clymer issue.
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Reply #3 - 06/07/16 at 01:25:34
 
I'm wondering if the slide is opening up.
Put it on prime and plug the vacuum line to the petcock.

Nothing?

How did that problem start?
Always been around?
After you tuned?

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Reply #4 - 06/07/16 at 04:23:36
 
Good morning folkss 670 feet Good Old Northeast Ohio. Everything was good until I did the jetting I did a 152.5 main I left the pilot stock and I shaved a little over a third off of the white spacer on the needle the reason I think top dead center may be an issue is that I did that while I was waiting for my Permatex to seal and cure from doing my plug leak.
To find top dead center I followed one of the posts from the site turning counterclockwise until the intake went down came back up and then I matched the lines up the white guy and the line on the case
I don't believe it's a petcock as everything was working fine prior to the jetting adjustments but I will look into that I'm also curious if when installing the needles did I reverse the plate that holds the needle

Oh and the muffler is from a 2007 Dyna and it has its baffles
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Reply #5 - 06/07/16 at 08:06:35
 
I don't think you lost yer' TDC...
JOG may be on track with a slide problem... and, the 152# may be a bit large for a baffled Dyna with no air filter mods or exhaust porting...

I'd try a 150#,.. and clean the slide and passage... also check that your spacer is under the plate and the plate dimples are facing down...

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Reply #6 - 06/07/16 at 08:53:42
 
TallElf wrote on 06/07/16 at 04:23:36:
I don't believe it's a petcock as everything was working fine prior to the jetting adjustments but I will look into that I'm also curious if when installing the needles did I reverse the plate that holds the needle

That petcock is 15 years old, the rubber is 120 years old in human terms.
Old, stiff and likely to spring a leak as get up and go.

I don't think its a stuck slide, but maybe a flopped over spring.
Any fingerprints on the slide may cause it to stick.
But usually you twist it and nothing happens till suddenly it lets go and you get sudden acceleration.
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Reply #7 - 06/07/16 at 08:57:51
 
Just funny that it worked like a champ and now dead... No release with acceleration... I will check springs when i get home
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Reply #8 - 06/07/16 at 20:06:21
 
Was either a dirty slide or a plugged top jet.. Sprayed it down.. Wiggled the slide to make sure it had movement and the spring wasnt bound up... Runs like a dream now.   Thanks all for the input..verslagen the petcock lives to see another day.
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Reply #9 - 07/17/16 at 10:32:13
 
Just a further update.   After adjusting a bit further and reducing the size of the spacer to appx 2 washers the backfire is gone.  Just a poof when i turn it off.   Took it out to the hills of pa and let it rip.   Love the way it handles in the twisties.   My brother who has a 1200 sporty was impressed with the snap of the little guy too.   All in all it is not a luxury cruiser but the getup and go is enough for some fun to be had by all
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Reply #10 - 07/17/16 at 12:28:43
 
What? We don't get three pages of hem hawing aroud, Asking everyone for clues, ignoring them all, making a huge mess of it and Then asking how to fix That?
You're no fun..

But you really should ditch the petcock. The rubber is probably not designed for the corn squeezings and is stiff and, if not cracked now, will be. Cold weather won't be your friend. Twenty bucks and an hours work and you can forget about it all..
Somehow I don't think you are intimidated by the idea.
Excellent job solving the problems..
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Reply #11 - 07/17/16 at 13:33:01
 
Not intimidated... Just budgeting time accordingly.   Need to get to the tensioner too.. Approaching 10k
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Reply #12 - 07/17/16 at 14:37:37
 
Looking at what you have done, I know you aren't skeert.
Unless the miles are
Short trip
Miles  you should be alright for another oil change..
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Reply #13 - 07/17/16 at 15:49:41
 
Did you find that the diaphragm was pinched or not quite seated properly ?
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Reply #14 - 07/17/16 at 17:57:08
 
I'm gonna say that since nobody has reported an unwanted pregnancy the diaphragm was not pinched or seated improperly.
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