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07/29/15 at 15:03:01
 
I just installed a new battery. The second I make the connection to the positive terminal I blow a fuse. Any idea what would be causing this?
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Reply #1 - 07/29/15 at 15:14:14
 
A sudden influx of electrons.   Huh
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Reply #2 - 07/29/15 at 17:41:40
 
That's a V-E-R-Y general question. We'll need some more info.
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Reply #3 - 07/29/15 at 18:11:05
 

Connect the Positive cable to the battery FIRST, then connect the Negative cable. You might just be inadvertently touching the frame with your screwdriver when tightening the screw on the positive terminal. It's pretty close quarters if you're working in a stock battery box with an OEM sized battery.
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Reply #4 - 07/29/15 at 18:20:31
 
#3) Make certain that you are connecting the battery properly (Not reversed.) #2) Is the ignition OFF (a sudden surge will pop a fuse)  #1 Check for dead shorts in the wiring.

Assuming you were replacing the battery because it was old and weak, not totally dead.  
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Reply #5 - 07/29/15 at 19:17:34
 
psutton wrote on 07/29/15 at 15:03:01:
Any idea what would be causing this?


Too much in rush current. Make sure that the electrical system is off (key out) and that there aren't any dead shorts.
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Reply #6 - 07/29/15 at 19:25:00
 
ALWAYS connect positive first, because Should you accidentally hit ground with the tool and cause a spark, the battery could explode. Hydrogen gas is there. Also, a short to ground can create internal damage.

So, positive first. And be absolutely certain about the polarity.
Key off.
Why did it need a battery?
Background information.
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Reply #7 - 07/29/15 at 19:26:55
 
I have removed/installed/removed/installed (ad nauseum) my battery about a dozen times in the last 3 weeks. There are several places that the battery can short to the frame if it is not hooked up carefully.

If you had a perfectly functioning bike (except for the weak battery) before the problem, then it is likely that you are causing it.

Proper fuse is a 7 amp IIRC. remove the fuse first.

Check that the battery box bolts (on the bottom) are tight and that the box doesnt move around.

If you have a usable replacement battery, the terminals should face the rear of the bike and the positive should be on the RIGHT side.

Install battery all the way, making sure it is as far to the left as it can go. Do this with the battery terminal screws OFF of the battery.

There are 2 wires on the positive side. A large wire with the battery connector terminal on it, and a ring-lug for the fuse block. I put the ring lug UNDER the larger battery connector terminal, but that is just my preference. Regardless, install these 2 positive wires using a long phillips head that has electrical tape wrapped around the entire length of the screwdriver shank. When you have gotten it as tight as you can with the screwdriver, finish off with a 10mm open end wrench. Good and snug, but dont over tighten it.

Pull the rubber boot down over the terminal that you just attached. Make sure that the boot fully covers the exposed metal of the connector terminal and that nothing is touching the metal battery case.
Do NOT install the battery cover/tool bag holder yet.

Now install the negative terminal with that same insulated screwdriver. There is only on wire on the negative side. Again, make sure the wire isnt cut, bunched up, or pinched.

With keys OUT, install the fuse. If it blows immediately then you have a wire pinched somewhere. If it doesnt blow, turn the ignition to the ON position for 10 seconds, then off again. Check fuse. If it's still OK, try starting the bike.

If you have a running motorcycle at this point, then it may be that you pinched a wire when you installed the internal battery cover/tool bag holder.
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Re: Fuse Issue
Reply #8 - 07/29/15 at 20:21:33
 
fuse shouldn't blow unless key is on.
Although there are a few things that I think are always on.
decomp controller and starter relay have power to them.

does the starter jump? no then not it.
but if stuck on, give the fender a rap right below the ig switch to unstick it.

replace fuse with a 12v light.
when you connect battery, the light won't blow.
and when you fix the condition, the light will be off.
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Reply #9 - 07/29/15 at 21:06:25
 
eplace fuse with a 12v light.
when you connect battery, the light won't blow.
and when you fix the condition, the light will be off.


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Reply #10 - 07/29/15 at 21:35:57
 
I think it was digger who 1st told us that.
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Reply #11 - 07/29/15 at 21:41:39
 
The fuse blows without the keys even in the ignition. I'll go buy a light bulb tomorrow and report back with my findings. I appreciate all of your help on this.
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Reply #12 - 07/29/15 at 22:36:40
 
The connectors on a fuse is similar to spade connectors.
2 of these and about a 8 watt wired light and you'd be set.
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Reply #13 - 07/29/15 at 23:41:29
 
A  blown fuse and a dremel and soldering iron.., Heck, alligator clips,,
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Reply #14 - 07/30/15 at 10:09:47
 
The starter relay has power to it without the key switch turned on??


Ok, chalk that up to "hmm...didnt know that". Is that the unit that sits between the rear fender and the air intake (under the seat)?
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