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Reply #30 - 07/20/25 at 07:31:57
 

Have you tried considering a palestinian state?

 Yes.  As long as all Israelis are dead, and eventually all Jews on the planet, it would work.
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Reply #31 - 07/20/25 at 08:51:03
 
zevenenergie wrote on 07/20/25 at 05:12:59:
Have you tried considering a palestinian state?


The Palestinians could have their state if they would stop insist on killing Jews, and actually work to develop a prosperous society.
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Reply #32 - 07/21/25 at 04:35:25
 
The Palestinians could have their state if they stopped insisting on killing Jews and actually worked to develop a prosperous society.

Can you stop crime in America?
Let's give them a state, install a peace army, and spend the money you support Israel with to give them something to build on because they nothing but crushed concrete.

Then prosecute the Israeli government for war crimes and install a controlled government with foreign oversight for the next 25 years.
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Reply #33 - 07/21/25 at 04:58:00
 
zevenenergie wrote on 07/21/25 at 04:35:25:
The Palestinians could have their state if they stopped insisting on killing Jews and actually worked to develop a prosperous society.

Can you stop crime in America?
Let's give them a state, install a peace army, and spend the money you support Israel with to give them something to build on because they nothing but crushed concrete.

Then prosecute the Israeli government for war crimes and install a controlled government with foreign oversight for the next 25 years.


I enjoy and respect many of your comments, but you’re support for the terrorist regime that rules the Palestinians and what can only be called an unjustified hatred for Israel means I’m done exchanging comments on this topic with you.
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Reply #34 - 07/21/25 at 08:39:31
 
The Palestinians in Gaza are closely linked to Hamas, that's common knowledge; you can't separate them. So I think what you're doing is too easy. I'm rebelling against the genocide taking place there, which I see you denying.
There's no easy way out.
And to stop it, it has to be discussed and hard facts have to be presented.

It's very easy for Israel to starve a people to death (which, by the way, is a war crime).
Among me, 185 countries want a Palestinian state. Only America consistently vetoes it.
I don't support terrorism, so why should I stand 100% behind Israel?

But if you don't want to discuss it with me anymore, I respect that.
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Reply #35 - 07/22/25 at 03:41:58
 


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Reply #36 - 07/22/25 at 06:21:52
 
zevenenergie wrote on 07/21/25 at 08:39:31:
The Palestinians in Gaza are closely linked to Hamas, that's common knowledge; you can't separate them. ...

... I don't support terrorism, so why should I stand 100% behind Israel? ...

...  I'm rebelling against the genocide taking place ..."


Which is it ?

The WOKE, DFI, FDS, Socialists say: (to the effect)

FEED people that KILL YOU.
FEED people that Steal, Kidnap, Imprison, TORTURE , and refuse to  RETURN people.
FEED people that do NOT stand up to TERRORISM.








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Reply #37 - 07/22/25 at 06:51:19
 

 We were tasked with making cartoons for an art class when I was in middle school.  The US had just been through or was going through Desert Storm / Gulf War.

 I remember thinking as a kid that it was weird that we (The US) went to go help a country and that people there would burn the US flag.  My kid-brain had yet to understand the differences in culture and thought that the Kuwaiti people were burning the US flag.  (Some were actually)

 So my cartoon was two guys sitting by a pile of rice bags with the big US flags printed on them.  I had seen those loaded onto planes on TV.  (I think a the time I thought they were beans though.)  One guy was saying to the other: "Those crazy Americans think of everything.  Free food, and a flag to burn!"  

 Or something close to that.  Maybe it was longer, like "Those crazy Americans think of everything.  Free food and a flag printed on the bag so we can burn it!"
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Reply #38 - 07/22/25 at 08:54:49
 
Well found...

I think the trick is to realize that people in Gaza are just people like you and me, and that no one likes being starved to death.
Eating out isn't fun either when literally all your buildings and homes in your country are being bombed to pieces and the streets are being bulldozed.
And when you haven't eaten for three days and you're being shot at at the food distribution point, that doesn't exactly make you happy either.

I was thinking about posting a terrorist action here, by posting photos of starved women and children in Gaza, alongside photos from the extermination camps from World War II.

But that might be more fitting after the genocide.
What do you think?
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Reply #39 - 07/22/25 at 10:08:17
 

I think the trick is to realize that people in Gaza are just people like you and me, and that no one likes being starved to death.

 I doubt I would parade women around and murder them because I am starving then set up shop inside a hospital.  I would do that if I were actually attacking their religion and blaming it on food.


Eating out isn't fun either when literally all your buildings and homes in your country are being bombed to pieces and the streets are being bulldozed.
And when you haven't eaten for three days and you're being shot at at the food distribution point, that doesn't exactly make you happy either.


 Agreed, yet this wasn't what was happening before an elaborate planned assault and hostages taken.  If I kill my neighbors kids because I am starving should I expect my neighbor to do something when I try to go get food?


I was thinking about posting a terrorist action here, by posting photos of starved women and children in Gaza, alongside photos from the extermination camps from World War II.

 WW2 has nothing to do with this.  If the US was out killing every Japanese person we could today because of their religion, how much sense would it make for us to keep pointing at Pearl Harbor?  


 If Israel started feeding humans in Gaza tomorrow, then attacks from Gaza would come from well-fed humans.  Hamas and Palestine need to eradicate Israel, and the US, rapidly and long-term, that's the only solution for them.  Or they can let Jews live, but I don't think that's an option for them.
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Reply #40 - 07/22/25 at 11:07:35
 
We could fool the Jews by offering them a diet of about two weeks in Gaza, about 30 km from the border. Free, but they'd have to walk back themselves.
And then, when they're almost at the border, tell them they're not slim enough and give them another week or two. Free of charge, of course.

Then you don't have the problem of it being unethical.
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Reply #41 - 07/23/25 at 07:15:02
 
Wonder why,
in all the ‘dire’ photos of starving people spin by Liberal news companies. It is women, children, old people, that are shown grasping for food.

While MOST of the males, (that we see in the background, and in far away shots), are strong, able, carrying large bags of, (that looks like), food.  

Golly Gee Wally, could they be terrorists, that care only for them selves, and the children/women/old are worthless fodder, cause they don’t KILL Israelis.  
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Reply #42 - 07/23/25 at 13:50:05
 
You could also have said that the men are well fed because they have to kill Jews.
The photos of women and children are because that's what makes the biggest impression on people.

Because there are people who still don't want to grasp what's happening there.

Don't you think the men there have a heart and that they take good care of their families just like you do?

The Nazis in Germany could murder the Jews because they had been reduced to inhumane. it seems like you are doing the same.
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Reply #43 - 07/23/25 at 15:57:30
 
zevenenergie wrote on 07/23/25 at 13:50:05:
"...  you think the men there have a heart and that they take good care of their families ..."


NOP

"...Muslim women are not considered equal to men or valued equally with men in Islamic society. ..."

 "...  The Holy Qur’an states clearly that women are to be subordinate to men. Qur’an 4.34: “Men stand superior to women ..."

"... those whose perverseness ye fear, admonish them and remove them into bed-chambers and beat them; but if they submit to you, then do not seek a way against them ..."

"... many specifics of Sharia law (Islamic religious law) are not found in the Qur’an, traditional Muslim texts and practice are used to justify restrictions which limit women’s access to education, transportation, employment, making women reliant on men for these fundamental rights and denying women self-determination. In countries where this is the case, women and girls experience oppression, whatever the Qur’an says. ..."

"... The fact that this is not required of men demonstrates the expectation of women being submissive. ..."

(And a bunch more)

Sure their are SOME women that may think for themselves. (Just not very many !)

MALC (Make America Like China) is for the SOCIALISTS in the US.

Guess other SOCIALISTS say,
Make Europe Like Islam Nations.

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Reply #44 - 07/23/25 at 16:00:35
 

The Nazis in Germany could murder the Jews because they had been reduced to inhumane. it seems like you are doing the same.


 Isn't this comparison just as easy to do the other way around?


 You support Palestinians that kill women and children.  The Nazis in Germany could murder the Jews because they had been reduced to inhumane. it seems like you are doing the same.

 Israel is being inhumane.


 This is a situation where Israel has to kill Palestinians because they kill Israelis, and Palestinians have to kill Israelis because they kill Palestinians.   If one side didn't require the other be eradicated maybe there would be a solution that isn't eradication.
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