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03/29/25 at 17:58:19
 
Teachers, ALLOWED to Teach  !

I have taught Minn’s FST, (Firearms Safety Training), first class about 12 to 14 years old, for a number of years. Last 5 years spent most of my time in AZ. I do come back to MN for Taxes, (still the old fashion way),  when I do, and other teachers of FSC know I am in town, they call me and tell me I am welcome to join the class and participate.

So, this Thursday, I taught a part of the class.  One student was horsing around, talking when other instructors were lecturing/demonstrating. When I was my turn, first thing I did was point to him, asked his name, told him he has a choice.’”You can continue to disrupt the class, or you can listen and learn.  If you continue to disrupt, I will expel you, you will go outside and wait for your ride, and never come  back in again. Or you can listen and learn, along of the rest of the students. ”Pick one”.

He stared at me, mouth open, then was quiet. !!!!!!

Today, Sat, Field day, 5 groups of 5, (small class), I was at the .22 Live Ammo shooting station. This person was in the third group. (It takes about 3 min to walk to that station). Watching him, he was trying to trip others, pushing others, just being a Azz Hole in general. He turned the corner saw me, then, BEHAVED, and passed the class.

POINT IS !!!
Let Teachers TEACH !


No one, that is NO TEACHER EVER, corrected/disciplined that person.,
    NO ONE
Cause they were TOLD they could NOT !!!!!

Parents, your children are NOT YOUR FRIENDS,
They are your, CHILDREN,
To be TAUGHT !

When they are grown up, out of your house, have children themselves, THEN they become your friends.

Let Teachers TEACH !!!!!!!!
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Reply #1 - 03/30/25 at 01:38:03
 
They not only don't let teachers teach,they demand that teachers follow a lesson plan.
The last decades of destruction demonstrate the value of that approach.
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Reply #2 - 03/30/25 at 05:10:02
 
MnSpring, what do you think about the KelTec P 17?

I have a 22 magnum WMR 30 from Kel Tec and personally I think it’ the single handgun anyone needs. That’s my opinion.
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Reply #3 - 03/30/25 at 10:02:00
 
WebsterMark wrote on 03/30/25 at 05:10:02:
"...what do you think about the KelTec P 17?..."


Handguns are fun, and if you like a certain brand/cal/model/action, GREAT stick with it.

Most all, will have detractors that say,. “This doesn’t do that/that jams/this is clumsy/etc”  (or something similar) which is one reason there are so many variants, of a model.

Kel Tec started out being rather ‘rough’ and had some problems. That is for the most part solved.  That company used to be bottom 3 or 4. Now it is probably just above the middle.


So, if you like how a gun shoots/functions/etc. Again use it.

Now as to Self Defense, ‘MY opinion is’. There are three worthy handguns, and they are (Double Action Only) revolvers.

All have NO VISIBLE/ACCESSIBLE hammer, they are smooth, fit in a pocket or purse, do not snag, and if the need arises, simply pull the trigger.  

All are .357, which also will shoot the shorter 38 SPC.  By price. (High-Lo)

Kimber =  K6, Several variants. 6 shot.

S&W =  340, Several variants. 5 shot.

Ruger =  LCR,  5 shot.

1000,00 to 500.00, depending on variant, new, old, condition.

Here is a very good place to buy one. You buy it, it must be shipped to a FFL store of your choice. Then you do the required paperwork of that location.
https://www.gunbroker.com/

(Contrary to  Hillary's LIES,
      INFERRING
anyone can posses a gun, just like buying a tea cup off e-bay)


When the FACTS are, a person could, ‘buy’, but NOT. posses

(Well unless your Father is a DFI pudding head)
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Reply #4 - 03/30/25 at 10:35:05
 

 I agree with MnSprings personal defense firearm assessment.  It is an opinion that I agree with MnSprings firearm assessment.

 A double action revolver with an enclosed hammer is as "point and shoot" as one can get and is the statistically least likely to fail.  This is an opinion.

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Reply #5 - 03/30/25 at 15:53:39
 
I’m a fan of .22 magnums. The WMR-30 has a 30 round clip and I can get off 10 shots into a dinner plate size target in about 5 seconds. The thing about.22 magnums is since I don’t shoot regularly and since there is no recoil to speak of, I’d much prefer it to something with a big recoil because if I don’t hit my target on the first shot, the next one or two aren’t going to be much better. I feel 5-10 rounds of a .22 magnum on target is much better.

But, that’s my opinion never having been in a self defense situation before .
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Reply #6 - 03/30/25 at 16:20:20
 

 What I have learned from firearm exercises is that very little stationary range-time skills transfer to moving-hostile target skills.  

 There isn't much one can do about it besides simplify the erroneous factors one would have a degree of control over.  The reason I prefer a revolver is because it is less likely to need in-action maintenance like clearing a jam.  

 As for the tactile feedback and how each human handles recoil attenuation there are a lot of variables.  If you prefer low-recoil, and train with low-recoil, then you will most likely engage more accurately with low-recoil.  Most of my training focuses on minimal trigger pulls so a revolver fits well for me.  I typically will only pull twice per engagement unless I perceive the situation to warrant otherwise.  

 My primary reason for recommending revolvers is because the average human asking about a home-defense firearm does practically no training or maintenance.  A grab-and-it-works gun is their best bet.
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Reply #7 - 03/31/25 at 08:39:51
 
In a court situation a prosecutor will use terms like "military style" and "high capacity" against you

Revolvers won't have that problem
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Reply #8 - 03/31/25 at 09:39:43
 
If they do, I’ll remind them that I or somebody else is still alive because of those things.
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Reply #9 - 03/31/25 at 10:27:34
 
Serowbot wrote on 03/31/25 at 08:39:51:
I"... Revolvers won't have that problem


What a naive, view !!!!!!!!



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Reply #10 - Yesterday at 09:24:32
 


"...double action revolver ... is the statistically least likely to fail ..."


When advising a new person to firearms, and the selection comes up about 'Semi-Auto. vs  Revolver'.  One of the comments are:

When you buy a cute little Semi-Auto, you will learn to operate it, practice with it, then put it in the nightstand of your bedroom.

Suddenly you need it,  (after the last 2 + + + years).  

Which will operate by just pulling the trigger ?

The Semi Auto, which may have had, to much or to little oil ?
May have been put in the drawer with chamber empty, only magazine loaded.
May have the safety on.

Or the revolver, which will only require a pull of the trigger.






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