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12/03/24 at 06:40:15
 
Women in front-line combat positions?
Yes or no?
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Reply #1 - 12/03/24 at 06:44:16
 
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Reply #2 - 12/03/24 at 07:42:44
 
 What is a "front line combat position" ?

 Most humans thinks infantry with an M-4 pointed at the enemy and that's it.

 However a standard definition is position(s) closest to the area of conflict of an armed force's personnel and equipment.  In the US ARMY it is called "Combat Arms" and includes infantry, field artillery, air defense artillery, aviation, armor, special forces, and combat engineers.

 Would Field Artillery meet the "front line combat" definition?  Armor?  I know plenty of Israeli women in armor units, drivers, gunners and commanders.  

 Front-line as described by the US military?  Yes.

 Every single known position?  No.  Only one's who can achieve competencies without altering the standard.
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Reply #3 - 12/03/24 at 09:57:33
 
Most humans thinks infantry with an M-4 pointed at the enemy and that's it.

Let’s go with that definition.
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Reply #4 - 12/03/24 at 10:47:05
 

Let’s go with that definition.

 Yes.  I am ok with voluntary female casualties on the battlefield.
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Reply #5 - 12/03/24 at 10:55:03
 
yes and draft if needed
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Reply #6 - 12/03/24 at 13:14:39
 
The frontline is made up of individuals. Together they are a team.
You want your team to lose?
Put Team Members in it who aren't physically able to drag their teammates to safety.
Load it with weak people.
Stop thinking IDENTITY and start thinking
ABILITY.
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Reply #7 - 12/03/24 at 13:29:14
 
I den titty?
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The frontline is made up of individuals. Together they are a team.
You want your team to lose?
Put Team Members in it who aren't physically able to drag their teammates to safety.
Load it with weak people.
Stop thinking IDENTITY and start thinking
ABILITY.



 So you are addressing if they lowered the standards correct?  I'm not sure Webstermark is questioning that as much as he is questioning that if a female - that has passed all the same requirements a male did - should not be there based exclusively off her gender.  

 Frontline with varied standards is a totally different discussion.
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Reply #9 - 12/03/24 at 14:16:03
 
And women simply are not up to hanging with men. Men are different from women. Women are different from men. Even If they manage to get through the physical tests, women are Not Warriors. Look at the entire history of the world.
It's only Obvious. But don't let that get in your way. Some stUff just  Is. Men don't ever get pregnant. That just IS. Women are not suited for War.
When the women are in The Fight, it's because if they Don't get in the fight, they are going to die as soon as the men defending them are killed. Think settlers/Indians.
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Reply #10 - 12/03/24 at 14:44:33
 
Yes, should women be in combat positions?
Yes or no?
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Reply #11 - 12/03/24 at 15:20:33
 
I'm sorry if I was unclear.

No..
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Reply #12 - 12/05/24 at 04:58:56
 
The correct answer by the way is no.
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Reply #13 - 12/05/24 at 05:11:31
 
I served with women just like the men there are capable ones and those who are not
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Reply #14 - 12/05/24 at 05:20:16
 

The correct answer by the way is no.


 I assume actual soldiers wouldn't know any better than those safe at home?
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