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Idle Speed, No Tach
08/29/24 at 05:22:47
 
I know this has been discussed before, but it’s a worthy topic.

Idle Speed, but I ain’t got no tach (many people, stock bike)…. Actually, I have a decent tach but do I believe it??!

Idling too low is no good…. Bike barely has any oil pressure in the head with a fast idle…. I think the recommended spec is 1100rpm.  I know some members have mentioned 1200-1300.  My tach reads about 1250 when the bike is up to operating temperature.  But, do I believe it?  I’m gunna try to verify with an external tach, but will I believe it?  Which one do I believe?!  Average the results?  Humm…

My ear is good enough to know the beat shouldn’t be as slow as Black Sabbath’s “Iron Man” intro.  Don’t try to make it lobe like a Harley.  Sounds cool, but deadly.  

https://youtu.be/qRcYjJQ0JHg?si=swoYOvXRpAVJsEl_

Is Led Zeppelin’s “Black Dog” too fast?

https://youtu.be/6tlSx0jkuLM?si=ZSMk24aaYO9XntoV

Is there a tune in the middle, maybe some Aerosmith or Pink Floyd??


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Reply #1 - 08/29/24 at 16:28:00
 
IIRC a Redneck solution is get somewhere level, ish,, no strong wind, idle in first, Ottsta make 10 mph,,mehh,,12.. At least ten.. A higher idle doesn't come with a penalty,, a sexy loping thump? That is probably going to be expensive.
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Reply #2 - 08/29/24 at 17:06:47
 
JOG wrote on 08/29/24 at 16:28:00:
IIRC a Redneck solution is get somewhere level, ish,, no strong wind, idle in first, Ottsta make 10 mph,,mehh,,12.. At least ten.. A higher idle doesn't come with a penalty,, a sexy loping thump? That is probably going to be expensive.


LOL.  I'll wobble and tip over before it idles up to 10mph!  Drag my feet while i walk the dog?
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Reply #3 - 08/29/24 at 17:13:31
 
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Reply #4 - 08/29/24 at 17:20:56
 
ohiomoto wrote on 08/29/24 at 17:13:31:


Cool.  I can't get it to go to 550 though...Some day I can't tie my shoes either...

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Reply #5 - 08/29/24 at 20:45:16
 
Ya don't Hafta start from a stop YaKnow,, it's okay to roll into a late night parking lot where stores are closed and slow down, drop into first,let it drop to idle.
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Reply #6 - 08/30/24 at 02:51:51
 
ohiomoto wrote on 08/29/24 at 17:13:31:


When your engine is turning 1,100 rpm.....there are 550 exhaust pulses per minute.

Play the 550bpm and match the frequency with your idle speed!
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Reply #7 - 08/30/24 at 04:03:50
 
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dqz8V1CSdl8

Somehow I'm not seeing this as all that helpful,, but it's 550 beats a minute.
Or so they say.
Maybe if it was monotone, and with more of a Dyna accent.


Poke one ear bud in,turn it up to 11?
Put a hand behind the exhaust and listen?

Don't forget to stand it up some. Keep the cam happy.
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Reply #8 - 08/30/24 at 04:57:40
 
Dave wrote on 08/30/24 at 02:51:51:
ohiomoto wrote on 08/29/24 at 17:13:31:


When your engine is turning 1,100 rpm.....there are 550 exhaust pulses per minute.

Play the 550bpm and match the frequency with your idle speed!


Thanks for the reply.  I get the concept, but I can’t get the metronome link you shared to crank up past 218bpm.  It maxes out at 218.  Maybe it’s my browser or I’m just not techno-savvy enough to figure it out.
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Reply #9 - 08/30/24 at 12:10:44
 
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Reply #10 - 08/30/24 at 15:01:14
 
Now THAT is usable.
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Reply #11 - 08/30/24 at 17:08:30
 
Sorry guys.  I didn't test the Google metronome.
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Reply #12 - 08/31/24 at 04:12:23
 
All good, Ohiomoto!

Dave - Nice find on that one!  Play that while listening to the exhaust and you’ll think you need a complete valve job!  The tone of the metronome sound that is.  The sound when you definitely need to check the valve lash!  lol.
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