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Re: Removing the wheels for new tires question…
Reply #30 - 07/07/24 at 13:42:22
 
It's only holding up 200-300 lbs, my jack will and will probably hold it for more than a week.

I don't know about yours though, you should test it, put it under a car overnite, still up in the morning you're good to go.

The stock IRC's are a narrow tire for their marking and the dunlap is wider tire than IRC at the same width.  So the D404 130 will be very close in width. The 90 adds a little height and makes the speedo read closer to the actual speed.
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Reply #31 - 07/07/24 at 16:10:37
 
The K555 costs more than the D404.  That's all I know.   Shocked

Do the matchy-matchy with the front and put a D404 130/90 on the rear.

I like matchy-matchy.

Here's the set for $204.  I think they want like $160 for just the rear K555.

https://www.motosport.com/product/?code=SS-M-G-D-GDN-STREET&key=Dunlop-D404-T...
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Reply #32 - 07/08/24 at 04:08:11
 
ThumperPaul wrote on 07/07/24 at 16:10:37:
Do the matchy-matchy with the front and put a D404 130/90 on the rear.

I like matchy-matchy.


Me too.  They folks that build these tires don't recommend mixing tire sets - as the tires can behave differently.  I suppose as long as you don't mix bias play and radial it is likely not too serious.

The only time I have mixed sets is when I have decided to change tire brands or tire models and still have life left in one tire - I change the worn out tire and as soon as the other one wears out I replace it and am "matching" again.  I normally count on wearing out 2 rear tires for the life of 1 front tire - but I did have one new set of tires where the front wore out 1,000 miles sooner than the rear!

Mismatched sets often occur when folks are out riding and have a tire failure (or wear one out) and need to replace a tire in a hurry, and the local bike shop doesn't have a matching tire.  I don't believe mismatch is often done on purpose.
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Reply #33 - 07/08/24 at 09:51:06
 
I could be wrong but I believe some Yamaha and Honda bike came stock with the D404 in front and the K555 in the rear back in the early 2000s. My understanding is the K555 is suppose to be a more premium tire with better wear so it’s better for the rear with the extra weight.

With that I did have 2 questions…

1. Using the floor jack to lift the back works great. Can I use jack stands on the rear foot pegs? I haven’t tried yet, but it looks like it should work.

2. I have 25k miles and while my rear brake shoes prob still have plenty of life left they do squeal quite a bit. I was thinking of using an aftermarket brake shoe in the rear while I had it off. EBC makes 2 kinds…the 606 and 606G. The 606G is grooved so it work better with noise no?
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Re: Removing the wheels for new tires question…
Reply #34 - 07/08/24 at 11:39:34
 
the left side you could, but the right the muffler was in the way.

the brake shoes have lots of life so you may not need to change them yet.
squeaking is another issue, I find it's caused by dust.

the ends of the brake lining are tapered and this tends to cause dust to be trapped between the drum and lining.

I modified the forward side to have a sharp edge and bevel it towards the outside so the dust is moved towards the outside and drops out.

This stops the squeaking.
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Reply #35 - 07/15/24 at 08:03:25
 
Thanks for the tip on the brake shoes!

After doing a bunch of research I decided just to go back to my original D404/K555 combo. I was super tempted to try the Shinko 230 Tourmaster tires, but I guess don’t fix what’s not broken. I was going to match the D404 front and back, but the Dunlop website recommends the D404/K555 combo.

https://ibb.co/hRH1Fq6
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Reply #36 - 07/15/24 at 08:09:54
 
https://ibb.co/F8tjqWx

That is my current alignment of my rear brake. If I replace the brake shoes how do I know what to change the angle of the red line on the green line spindle? I’m a bit confused as new brake shoes will have more material on them so I assume I need to change the angle.  
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Reply #37 - 07/15/24 at 09:19:05
 
if you put new shoes on, the angle will change due to new shoes.
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Reply #38 - 07/15/24 at 11:08:14
 
That red line is nothing.  Don’t use the “crack/split” on the brake lever clamp.  Your green line is almost sitting exactly on top of the index mark in the spline shaft.  It’s an etched grove/line in the spline/shaft.  That’s what you want to see at the beginning of the range indicator with new brake shoes.
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Reply #39 - 07/15/24 at 11:57:29
 
So it looks like my current set of pads has plenty of life left as the green line is just at the beginning of the wear limit range.

With that said I was curious to try the EBC shoes. How would I know what angle to reattach the brake lever clamp once I reinstall everything? That’s the part that I’m confused about…
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Reply #40 - 07/15/24 at 12:14:58
 
transam4life wrote on 07/15/24 at 08:03:25:
Thanks for the tip on the brake shoes!

After doing a bunch of research I decided just to go back to my original D404/K555 combo. I was super tempted to try the Shinko 230 Tourmaster tires, but I guess don’t fix what’s not broken. I was going to match the D404 front and back, but the Dunlop website recommends the D404/K555 combo.

https://ibb.co/hRH1Fq6
https://ibb.co/TmdR6p3
https://ibb.co/r6PBH7L


Really? They recommend that? I just went Dunlop 404s Tongue
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Reply #41 - 07/15/24 at 12:22:56
 
Replicate your current set-up...  Also, it will make more sense when you get the brake anchor off and see the inside.

You don't have to remove the brake arm lever from the shaft to change the shoes.  Just unscrew the brake adjuster and remove it.  That's all you have to disconnect until you get the wheel off and get the brake anchor in your hands.
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Reply #42 - 07/15/24 at 12:24:47
 
Shoes removed.
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Reply #43 - 07/15/24 at 13:07:39
 
Now that I see the underside it all makes more sense. I thought I had to undo the clamp to remove the brakes. I’m going to work on the rear next weekend so wanted to get an idea in my head of what needed to be done. Thanks for the photos…
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Re: Removing the wheels for new tires question…
Reply #44 - 07/15/24 at 13:31:15
 
It's pretty easy.  Once you see it with shoes, it'll make more sense.  They just "fold out" in there and attach with 2 springs.  Boing, done.  Try not to pinch your finger.
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