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03/26/24 at 03:51:34
 
That’s the title of an article on realclearpolitics.com. Below are some really interesting conditions they say is evidence the country is careening off course.

I have to say I agree to a point. My job for years took me to a different city almost every week but in my new role, I don’t travel as much. But when I do, it seems like things are different. I was in downtown Austin Texas last year and wow, what a sh!xhole!

Just curious, what everyone else’s opinion? Look around (with as much of an unbiased view as you can) and ask yourself if there appears to be a decline or not.

“In a Wall Street Journal commentary about post-COVID America, Yale University’s Nicholas Christakis observes how “reckless behavior” is becoming epidemic. “Americans gambled a record $66.5 billion in 2023. Compared with 2019, there has been an 18% increase in fatal accidents involving alcohol and a 17% increase in those involving speeding. Over 500 Americans are dying every day from alcohol-related deaths, a 30% increase. Sexually transmitted diseases are rising across the nation, too.”

Jonathan Haidt reports in the Atlantic that “rates of depression and anxiety in the United States – fairly stable in the 2000s – rose by more than 50 percent in many studies from 2010 to 2019. The suicide rate rose 48 percent for adolescents ages 10 to 19. For girls ages 10 to 14, it rose 131 percent.” A CNN and Kaiser Family Foundation poll published in 2022 found that more than 20% of adults described their mental health as “fair” or “poor,” and about one-third of adult respondents said they feel anxious much of the time.

A 2021 study by the Survey on American Life found that 49% of Americans said they had fewer than three close friends – in 1990 the figure was 27%. That same year 33% of respondents said they had 10 or more close friends; in 2021 that number fell to 13%. The birth rate and rates of marriage – which, when done in tandem, producer happier and more stable parents and children – have long been in decline.

Unable to meet its recruitment goals, the Pentagon has repeatedly lowered its standards for physical fitness, mental health, and academic achievement to meet its numbers. “America’s youth are less qualified for service than ever before,” Army Brig. Gen. Patrick Michaelis, commander at Fort Jackson, S.C., was quoted as saying in a Stars and Stripes article published last year. Added Gen. James McConville, the Army’s chief of staff, “We have a lot of young men and women who want to serve – and they can’t pass the academic requirements or they can’t pass the physical requirements.”

The New York Sun reports that many citizens are no longer part of the workforce. “Jobs held by native-born Americans decreased by nearly half a million between January and February of this year, while jobs held by foreign-bornAmericans (both legal and illegal immigrants) spiked to 1.16 million. Looking further back, since January 2020 — just before the pandemic — there has been no growth in native-held jobs, while jobs for foreign-born employees have skyrocketed by more than 3.9 million. … The native-born workforce participation rate of 6 percent is also less than the foreign-born participation rate of 66.6 percent.”

The liberal Vera Institute has reported that “the number of women incarcerated in the United States has skyrocketed in the last four decades, increasing 475 percent in 40 years. In 2019, there were more than 231,000 women and girls held in prisons and jails across the country. … 50 years ago, almost 75 percent of counties held not a single woman in jail.” In a similar vein, news reports now routinely carry articles about female teachers accused of molesting students.”
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Reply #1 - 03/26/24 at 04:49:31
 
Our society has been in sharp decline, and is rapidly approaching the cliff that is just around the corner.  Our current leadership has sold us out to the communist nations of the world, going against our laws allowing millions of unknown persons to swarm throughout the country in preparation for the final takeover and destruction of our nation … it’s TREASON.
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Reply #2 - 03/26/24 at 04:55:25
 
 I think it's a global phenomenon.
If a government starts to govern based on ideas or ideals, a society can only be disrupted.

Policy must always be made based on needs in an organic way. Only then can a country develop further or solve problems.

The war in Ukraine has created a wave of poverty that is felt by everyone on this planet and we are in a world war that will inevitably escalate.

We often call for destruction, for example when it comes to the Palestinians.
However, we do not know what it is like in a war zone, what the smell of burning bodies is, what the earth is like shaking, what a bomb smells like, what it is like to shoot a child.

We do and shout so easily, but we forget that time forgets nothing and that everything is connected.

Lightning strikes a tree, but the tree also attracts lightning.
A bull would never take a man on its horns if the man had not challenged him.
Man invites his own disasters and then protests against annoying guests because he has forgotten when and how and where he invited them.
But time forgets nothing.
Time delivers every invitation to the right address at the right time; and conduct each one invited to the host's home.
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Reply #3 - 03/26/24 at 05:19:20
 
LANCER wrote on 03/26/24 at 04:49:31:
Our society has been in sharp decline, and is rapidly approaching the cliff that is just around the corner.  Our current leadership has sold us out to the communist nations of the world, going against our laws allowing millions of unknown persons to swarm throughout the country in preparation for the final takeover and destruction of our nation … it’s TREASON.



Right on!
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Reply #4 - 03/26/24 at 06:48:29
 
buster6315 wrote on 03/26/24 at 05:19:20:
LANCER wrote on 03/26/24 at 04:49:31:
Our society has been in sharp decline, and is rapidly approaching the cliff that is just around the corner.
 
Going against our laws allowing millions of unknown persons to swarm throughout the country in preparation for the final takeover and destruction of our nation … it’s TREASON.



You're right, and I think the Indians saw it the same way.


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Reply #5 - 03/26/24 at 11:26:03
 
"Going against our laws allowing millions of unknown persons to swarm throughout the country in preparation for the final takeover and destruction of our nation … it’s TREASON.



You're right, and I think the Indians saw it the same way.
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Except that the Indians ( I assume you are talking about native  Americans) didn't have much of a choice. They were invaded and displaced in both North and South America by a vastly more technologicaly advanced civilization.

What's happening in the USA today is exactly the opposite, it's deliberate, and a huge percentage of the population is apparently fine with it, or just doesn't care.

Maybe we're not as smart as we think we are.
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Reply #6 - 03/27/24 at 19:05:14
 
LANCER wrote on 03/26/24 at 04:49:31:
"... current leadership has sold us out to the communist nations of the world, going against our laws allowing millions of unknown persons to swarm throughout the country in preparation for the final takeover and destruction of our nation … it’s TREASON."


A-YEP

The current, (totally UNABATED), influx of, Terrorists, Drug Lords, Gang-Bangers, Murders, Thief's,  
is absolutely NOTHING,
even close,
to a vastly  advanced civilization,
which 300 years ago
occupied the North America.



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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #7 - 03/28/24 at 03:49:27
 
I heard music today created by AI and there’s no way you could tell it apart from something people would’ve done. I’ve seen videos of Obama talking about ridiculous stuff and there’s no way you could tell it wasn’t real.

You can watch some videos of amazing creations that are more dreamlike. An elephant covered in leaves walking through a shopping mall. What it looks like to fly on the back of a bee pollinating flowers. There’s all kinds of things, it’s incredible.

It won’t be long before entire movies and dramas and porn of course is made with AI generated images and you won’t know if you’re watching a real actor or electronic creations.

Do you want to talk about something that has unbelievable potential for amazing advancements, and unbelievable destruction at the same time, here it is.

Now that the movie Dune 2 is out, I read those books, and I’m reminded that in those books, it’s said those societies have agreed that no one can build machines that thinks like humans. There’s a hint of a galactic super war that they survived, and then put in place this absolute requirement against like today we call AI.

Interesting.
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Reply #8 - 03/28/24 at 06:19:22
 
WebsterMark wrote on 03/28/24 at 03:49:27:
"...it’s said those societies have agreed that no one can build machines that thinks like humans...."

A prevalent theme in 'robot' biased, SF.

See the movie. "I - ROBOT". with Will Smith.
 (Base - 1950 Asimov)

Also "Battlestar Galactica". (A TV Series in the 80's)

  'Beware of the Cylons !!!!!

We have no, 'History' to learn from concerning robots, run by AI.

Can we learn, (and keep guarded) concerning the Future of, AI Robots ?

OH Wait, forgot,
the Progressive, FDS, Woke,
will determine that, 'ROBOTS',
are sentient.




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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Reply #9 - 03/29/24 at 05:32:17
 
I heard music today created by AI and there’s no way you could tell it apart from something people would’ve done. I’ve seen videos of Obama talking about ridiculous stuff and there’s no way you could tell it wasn’t real.

You can watch some videos of amazing creations that are more dreamlike. An elephant covered in leaves walking through a shopping mall. What it looks like to fly on the back of a bee pollinating flowers. There’s all kinds of things, it’s incredible.

It won’t be long before entire movies and dramas and porn of course is made with AI generated images and you won’t know if you’re watching a real actor or electronic creations.




 I think the advantage to this is that it makes it very clear that the internet can have anything you want to find.  One of the biggest issues with "misinformation" is people believing what they see online, typically from sources that claim they aren't "mainstream" and are telling the truth.  Once someone will acknowledge that literally everything they look at online could be completely fake, they start seeing it for what it really is.

 There's a reason why most false information is spread by middle-age or older humans online - it's because they grew up in an environment where false information took work, unlike today where a high school kid can, in minutes, fabricate documents, make videos and post the POTUS claiming China crashed a ship into a bridge.

 A kid can do this in about 30min now.  10 years ago they would have had to spend a few weeks doing this.  30 years ago it would have taken a team of experts.  

 People should be wondering if what they want to be true is actually true.  They should think everything online could be a lie - the internet has always been that way.
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Reply #10 - 03/29/24 at 17:21:59
 
What’s your point?
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What’s your point?

 I think the advantage to this is that it makes it very clear that the internet can have anything you want to find.

 A kid can make truly realistic content in about 30min now.  10 years ago they would have had to spend a few weeks doing this.  30 years ago it would have taken a team of experts.  

 People should scrutinize what they think is real more often and the prevalence/ease of access to the materials used to fabricate lies will make scrutiny more common.
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Reply #12 - 03/29/24 at 19:45:36
 
WebsterMark wrote on 03/29/24 at 17:21:59:
What’s your point?


A common 'point', could be made, in the Si-Fy Robot-take-over theme.

The population is to lazy to do things themselves, so robots are programed instead.

Then a  'evil'  owner of a robot making/programing factory figures he/she can rule the world.

       (That's SCIENCE FICTION)

The real world, what would prevent that from happening ?

robots doing, mundane/repetitive things,
doing dangerous thing's,
doing Boring thing's,
etc, etc, etc, is great !

At what point does one stop ?


At what point will AI be classified as, Sentient ?


When Will they be Programed to, 'Peal the Grapes' ?
















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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Reply #13 - 04/04/24 at 05:08:35
 
“ICE says most of the 8 Venezuelan illegal alien squatters arrested by NYPD at a home in the Bronx w/ guns & drugs were previously apprehended at the TX border & were released into the U.S., & one was arrested for murder last summer in Yonkers, NY.

Many of them had previous criminal charges in New York and had been released from custody.

ICE arrested three of them today, and has filed detainers on four others who are still in local custody. One remains outstanding.”
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