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Reply #75 - 11/02/24 at 23:53:17
 

NEWS OF TODAY

Intel has been delisted from the S&P 500.

Intel is no longer a major player in the US stock market.


SO, Wall Street simply says "Intel sucks" in essence ......
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Reply #76 - 11/09/24 at 20:01:10
 

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/processors/new-class-action-lawsuit-alleges-...

The EU already wants Intel to buy you a complete new replacement machine that can actually do the performance level that was originally advertised for these two generations of Intel machines.   Issue is that Intel has no processor at all that does this level of performance and if they did make one it will not plug into the old motherboard and memory, etc. etc.

We see Intel maneuvering for a bankruptcy break up that will allow the current "Intel" to carry these debts off into never never land while keeping Intel's brand new tech and new designs rolling along under a new brand name .......

Class actions in the USA and EU are smart enough to thwart these Intel avoidance efforts.

There are 3 main lawyer groups collecting participants to support their class action suits in hopes of collecting some of Biden's Intel bucks before they are all gone.   The tag end of the Biden Administration has now cut off all current gov. payments to Intel so they don't get sucked up in these class action lawsuits.

Intel has several internal stockholder class action lawsuits against them from their own stockholders specifically wanting their payouts before all the money goes out to the public at large.

Morris Chang at TSMC just cut Intel's future off cold turkey when he chopped Intel's allocations off massively and cut Intel's discount pricing rate massively due to "disrespectful actions" based on comments made by Intel's struggling CEO Pat Gelsinger.

Germans as a group are very angry with Intel for dropping all construction activity on building their German foundry and are now refusing in concert to buy a single solitary Intel processor.   "Taking the money and run" in this case is going to hurt Intel tremendously in the long run.


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https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intel-slapped-with-class-acti...

Intel slapped with class action lawsuit for Raptor Lake CPU instability issues — chipmaker accused of consciously selling defective chips

CPU replacement is not enough.


This week, a class action lawsuit was filed against Intel in a federal court. The plaintiff, Mark Vanvalkenburgh, accuses Intel of knowingly selling defective 13th Generation Raptor Lake and 14th Generation Raptor Lake Refresh processors. The plaintiff seeks damages and, in the alternative, restitution. Lawyers from Dovel & Luner expect other Intel customers to join the class action. There are some catches with this lawsuit.

The lawsuit, filed in San Jose, California, comes from Mark Vanvalkenburgh of Orchard Park, New York, who purchased an Intel Core i7-13700K processor in January 2023. According to the complaint, Vanvalkenburgh encountered frequent problems, including sudden screen blackouts and unexpected computer restarts. This summer, he attempted to apply an Intel patch intended to fix stability issues in the company’s Raptor Lake CPUs, but this solution failed to resolve the malfunctions.

“After purchasing the product, Plaintiff learned that the processor was defective, unstable, and crashing at high rates,” the lawsuit reads. “The processor caused issues in his computer, including random screen blackouts and random computer restarts. These issues were not resolved even after he attempted to install a patch issued by Intel for its 13th Generation processors. As a result, he did not get what he paid for. Had Plaintiff known the truth about the product, he would not have bought the product or would have paid less for it.”

The plaintiff asserts that Intel was aware of the instability problems with Raptor Lake CPUs before his purchase. He claims that the company’s internal testing, conducted before and after the processors’ release, revealed these defects. Despite this, Intel allegedly continued to market the processors as high-performance products without disclosing any potential for instability, raising accusations of fraud, breach of warranty, and violation of New York consumer protection laws.


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Re: Browsers and AI PC
Reply #77 - 11/14/24 at 03:05:46
 

New concerns over the Biden Bucks that were originally meant for Intel.

Liberal Democrats are loudly squealing and scurrying around over the recent Commerce Dept. Biden Bucks hold up.   The liberal Democrats in Congress say if they can't get the Biden Bucks delivered to Intel in the next 2 months the incoming Trump administration people will spend the money on other more worthy things instead of wasting it on the defunct ghost programs of Intel Corporation.

Vivek and Elon are very well aware of the WASTED MONEY blown to date by Intel stupidity and have plans to cut all of such spending off at the knees ........



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Reply #78 - 11/20/24 at 23:52:06
 

https://liliputing.com/qualcomm-plans-to-bring-snapdragon-chips-to-600-laptops/





The first Windows laptops to ship with Qualcomm’s Snapdragon X Plus and Snapdragon X Elite chips sold for $1,000 and up when they first hit the streets earlier this year. But in September Qualcomm introduced a new a lower-cost (and lower performance) chip designed for laptops with prices starting as low as $700.

Now the company has indicated it plans to go lower with a new Snapdragon processor that’s “coming soon” for entry-level laptops priced as low as $600.

At this point Qualcomm hasn’t said anything about the upcoming processor’s specifications. But given that Snapdragon X Elite processors feature 12 CPU cores and higher-performance graphics than the 8 and 10-core Snapdragon Plus processors, it seems like a safe bet that an upcoming entry-level processor could cut back on CPU and/or GPU resources.

But the new chip will have the same 45 TOPS NPU as all other members of the Snapdragon X family, which means PCs that ship with the new processor may still qualify as Microsoft Copilot+ PCs with support for on-device AI processing.



With Intel folding up shop on a lot of their older efforts, there has not been a whole lot of AI PC activity in the x86 realm lately.

In replacement, Qualcomm is out there in the marketplace already as the ARM based AI first mover and is now the new default "industry leader" with AMD and Microsoft quietly filling in the x86 side of things in a very low key fashion.  

AMD owns the performance crown right now by everyone's estimation.

Intel has no chips of consequence in motion, having recently fouled their nest with TSMC and lost their 40% discount and most of their allocation space -- unpaid for, BTW.   Since TSMC builds the precision "tiles" for Intel, Intel is actually short a lot of product lately.

No one is buying any of Intel's last most recent released effort as it SUX DITCH WATER and are not worth buying.

Intel does have somewhat more interesting 2025 1.8a stuff supposedly in their pipeline that is going to be built 100% off their own equipment, so we shall see what 1.8a brings for Intel in year 2025.

What AMD has lined up for 3nm and 2nm from TSMC is in testing now and is pretty powerful compared to past processors.  Intel has nothing that can touch it and is left in a weak and wounded sort of position with Apple and Qualcomm coming on strong from the ARM side of things and AMD is commanding a significant lead over Intel on the x86 side of things.

So, what can you do right now?      BUY AMD products .......


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Re: Browsers and AI PC
Reply #79 - 11/25/24 at 12:10:16
 

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html

Here is the 2024 Black Friday Holiday Season chip rankings for the x86 chipsets.   Be mindful that Apple and Qualcomm and NVIDIA do exist and do perform well but are not part of these ranked listings as they operated differently enough the benchmark software used do not apply to them.

The top 10 AMD chipsets are all AI chipsets, for whatever that means to you right now.

Also please note that Intel has failed to list any improved chipsets lately as they are all busy folding in on themselves and really don't have a new one to show us at this point in time.  

Also note that the leading blue chipsets listed in the top 20 are not currently available as they were totally depleted as warranty replacements to "warranty replace" all the failed Intel main processors in the past six months or so.

Also note that the Intel 25-30% downgrade in real world performance due to the mitigated BIOS that you just installed with the warranty replacement chipset means your new Intel processor is still down over 25% to the old failed processor you just scrapped out.  
A 25% productivity downgrade means that Intel processors are currently NOT COMPETITIVE.




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Reply #80 - 11/30/24 at 06:45:00
 

Intel and the last gasp of the Biden Administration



fresh as of Dec 1st 2024

Biden's military contracting has recently invested 3 billion in Intel to keep the production source of some key military Intel chipsets going so Intel can meet current military contractual obligations.  

This is a joke --- you just gave another big contract to someone whose old production lines have already been obsoleted and the people have been fired already.

Biden's Commerce Dept. has just paid out another 7.8 billion "to keep Intel in business with the requirement that Intel not sell itself".   This is a joke because nobody can buy Intel as a company because AMD owns all of the 64 bit IP with Intel only having a non-transferable license on the 64 bit stuff and remembering that nobody including AMD wants Intel's out-of date-production lines.



The sad news is Intel has no future and will burn through this last gasp Biden money in about six months.   Having Intel "guarantee" anything is laughable.    Biden's foolish administration is just throwing more money down the outhouse stink hole to make it seem they know what they are doing.


Corporate America realizes this and is now trying to do some fresh production deals direct with TSMC to build and man two brand new TSMC modern 2nm factories here in America.  This plan assumes there is going to be somebody there to run the new plants ........    Roll Eyes
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Reply #81 - 12/02/24 at 20:04:29
 

Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger ousted by his board after a disastrous performance [CNBC]

Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger has stepped down, effective immediately. During his four years at the helm he tried to build the company’s foundry business. But Intel has failed to fend off competition from companies including NVIDIA, which has come to dominate the AI space.

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https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/12/02/with-gelsinger-gone-who-benefits-from...

This is some early theorizations over what happened and why/what the heck is next for the beleagered and broken Intel zombie.

Input facts:  our US Gov has Intel on life support right now (having just spent 3 billion of Military funds just to keep the zombie breathing) backed up by another 7 billion of Biden Bucks so that it can twitch and moan and maybe have a chance to get better.

TSMC isn't going to support Intel voluntarily any at all.  Right now China is threatening TSMC in a very real fashion and TSMC is likely going to move some TSMC plants to their Arizona site simply to assure TSMC  continuation post Chinese invasion over here on these American shores.  

The US GOV will likely force TSMC to accept doing business with Intel as part of this deal and may force TSMC to eventually incorporate over here in America if the Chinese do indeed take over the island.

This constitutes the "best known plan" for replacing Intel.   The 10 billion would be better spent on this path, and simply letting Intel go on down the crapper.

TSMC is however not a American company and pays their taxes to Taiwan.  Plus, politics has already spoken already and Intel will be supported until it becomes completely irrelevant.
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Reply #82 - 12/04/24 at 19:50:13
 

https://www.techspot.com/news/105816-opinion-what-next-intel.html

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intel-mulls-spinning-off-its-...

https://www.businessinsider.com/intel-ceo-exit-reignites-fab-foundry-debacle-...

https://digitstodollars.com/2024/09/24/intel-enters-the-silly-zone/


The pundits all discuss the various pathways forward for Intel.

All of them are in essence "total beak-up scenarios" that are each pushed forward inevitably by several "missed decisions" that all go back 10 years or more.

Bleak and forlorn projections doesn't begin to cover it ......

Intel's PR machine is now trying to regroup their corporate story line to say they are going to take a  protracted pause ------

why?

------ to "regroup" under their new co-management ......  
 

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HOWEVER, several impartial sources are quoting >60% yields for the TSMC 2nm process  and also quoting <20% yields at best for Intel 18A and even less than that for Samsung's current efforts.  

Until yields get consistently over 80% TSMC will not accept any big orders for these new processes, not with TSMC's 3nm doing 80% plus yields every single day now.  

Everyone will remain at 3nm until Apple and TSMC work out all the production bugs with 2nm.

SO ,,,,,. until manufacturing yield rates go up on the new stuff from TSMC, the current extended pause will continue .....

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/analysts-estimate-tsmc-n3-yields-between-60...

Now ex-CEO Pat Gelsinger has chimed in saying that Intel 18a yields "are in line with where they should be" at this stage of development.  

....... Sad that Intel's current bosses won't say that out loud right now.
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Reply #83 - 12/14/24 at 03:52:15
 

Intel's new co-bosses now say they will run their 18a process in full production mode next year even at the current scrap rates as TSMC has chopped their TSMC wafer allocations for Intel by a whole lot and have hiked their cost per wafer way way up very significantly which serves to make running the high scrap rate home brewed 18a chiplets seem comparatively acceptable to Intel.

Realize that the existing 18a machines already delivered to Intel are more than enough to build the flow of upper end chiplets that Intel actually needs right now as Intel isn't selling much to PC builders any more.  

WARNING:  Intel fully intends to sub in their old process chiplets where ever they can simply to save money.  

Note: all domestic suppliers for raw silicon wafers and various other production supplies are doubling their costs to Intel compared to last year,

AMD built complete in Taiwan will continue to be significantly better and cheaper than Intel products in other words.
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Reply #84 - 12/19/24 at 18:34:50
 

Linus Torvalds (head of Linux) gives fair warning saying he will not merge any more "defective conditions built-in" or bug ridden new processors for ANYBODY going forward as the endless chain of "error correction" bug fixes makes them an ongoing PITA for Linus and the boys to administer.    

Linus is STRONGLY suggesting that all development and debugging be completed before the new generation processor is released to market and certainly before applying for inclusion into the Linux kernel.

Yes, he's talking about YOU, Intel.

 See you at about Rev 6 for Linux support in other words .....

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