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18" rear wheel conversion --tips?
08/18/23 at 07:47:02
 
I understand it's already been proven to work, so I'm going to lace up an 18" X 2.5" rear rim on my bike using the rim and spokes for an XS650 Yamaha from Mike's XS. Any caveats, hints, or suggestions?
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Re: 18" rear wheel conversion --tips?
Reply #1 - 08/18/23 at 08:10:52
 
I did an 18” alloy rear rim on mine. I have the Kawi front pulley, and it made things a bit tight for the belt adjustment, and impossible once the tire was installed. I had to brace the swingarm, cut the existing brace, and reinforce it.
I think it was worth it.
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Re: 18" rear wheel conversion --tips?
Reply #2 - 08/18/23 at 08:32:38
 
An 18" x 2.5" rim is pretty narrow by current standards.

You will not be able to run any tire wider than a 120/80.

If you want to run a 130/70 you should have a 3.5" wide rear rim.
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Reply #3 - 08/18/23 at 10:52:16
 
Dave wrote on 08/18/23 at 08:32:38:
An 18" x 2.5" rim is pretty narrow by current standards.
You will not be able to run any tire wider than a 120/80.
If you want to run a 130/70 you should have a 3.5" wide rear rim.


For the way I ride, 120/80-18 is plenty of tire for a relatively lightweight, low performance bike. My objective is to get rid of the cruiser styling cues and build what we used to call a "standard" or "roadster" style bike.
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Reply #4 - 08/18/23 at 12:00:22
 
Yep - You won't "need" more tire for the Savage.

I had a 110/90-18 Bridgestone Battlax BT45 on my 2.5" rim, and it worked just fine until it was worn out.
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Reply #5 - 08/18/23 at 18:24:41
 
You need to keep your tire diameter under 26" with the stock swingarm.
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Reply #6 - 08/18/23 at 18:36:56
 
ohiomoto wrote on 08/18/23 at 18:24:41:
You need to keep your tire diameter under 26" with the stock swingarm.


Thanks for the input. It was your build that inspired me to take a Savage from cruiser to "standard" retro style.
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Reply #7 - 08/18/23 at 18:47:53
 
Super important to jig both ends of swingarm as Armens pic shows before any cutting
I run a 120/90-18 on a 2.5 hoop fills that modified space quite well !
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Reply #8 - 08/18/23 at 20:27:11
 
Bob:  my 'standard': 16" rear, 18" front.
1 tube is better than 2 tubes !
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Reply #9 - 08/19/23 at 06:03:13
 
zipidachimp wrote on 08/18/23 at 20:27:11:
Bob:  my 'standard': 16" rear, 18" front.
1 tube is better than 2 tubes !
Handles like a dream. What Suzuki shoulda built!
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Nice build! What is the rear shock length? Looks longer than stock. I'd like to reduce the effective rake by raising the rear and lowering the front. Any suggestions on converting to the 18" front"
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Reply #10 - 08/19/23 at 10:16:46
 
12.5" sportster shocks, not the best, but they work. Lowering the front has proven controversial here, depending how it's done. Mine works for me, but I'm not a speed demon. The 18" front may be enough!
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Reply #11 - 08/20/23 at 13:14:22
 
Probably obvious, but raising the rear will probably affect fuel flow out of the tank through the petcock valve.  Like riding downhill on low fuel...
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Reply #12 - 08/20/23 at 17:14:43
 
Bob Scogin wrote on 08/18/23 at 18:36:56:
ohiomoto wrote on 08/18/23 at 18:24:41:
You need to keep your tire diameter under 26" with the stock swingarm.


Thanks for the input. It was your build that inspired me to take a Savage from cruiser to "standard" retro style.
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Cool!  Looking forward to seeing how it comes out.

Good luck!
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Reply #13 - 08/21/23 at 07:45:26
 
Here's a preview. My objective was to provide a more "standard" riding position while keeping as many original parts as possible (for now). I shortened the risers and added bars from a 2008 Bonneville. The seat came from 4into1.com and was mounted on a subframe to which the usual filler panels are attached. No permanent frame mods are going to be done. All bolt on. Next up is the 18", 120/80-18 rear wheel, then I'll probably change the foot pegs/controls to a more standard position with guidance from those that have gone before me.
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Re: 18" rear wheel conversion --tips?
Reply #14 - 08/21/23 at 13:48:45
 
This may seem counter-intuitive, but on a ride Saturday, I noticed that from my kneecaps to my ankles, my lower legs are vertical, in spite of the forward footpegs. Very comfortable, no need for me to change them. Your mileage may differ!
Cheers, and good luck!  Cool
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