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ohiomoto Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2778	Re: Problems starting!! HELP! Reply #60 - 07/31/22 at 12:33:34 I like JOGs test to make sure you are getting fuel to the float bowl.
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Furby YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 34	Re: Problems starting!! HELP! Reply #61 - 08/02/22 at 13:50:23 Took out the carb again. Seal was good with the diaphragm. Gas was flowing into the bowl solid from the petcock with the drain on the carb open to gauge flow.
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Furby YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 34	Re: Problems starting!! HELP! Reply #63 - 08/02/22 at 13:51:23 Again
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Furby YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 34	Re: Problems starting!! HELP! Reply #64 - 08/02/22 at 13:51:50 ..
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Reply #65 - 08/03/22 at 16:51:50

What year is your bike?

Looks to me like your current jetting is in compliance. The early models used a #155 main jet and a #47.5 pilot jet. Needle seems correct too (5C16). The needle jet should be an X8.

One exception might be the pilot air jet in the top, the one you say has no markings. That's supposed to be a #70. A #70 should be 0.7mm or .028". As luck would have it, a #70 drill bit is .028" (purely a coincidence). You can check the jet by inserting the shank of a #70 drill bit. A #70 bit should just fit, a #69 should not fit, and a #71 should be loose. Your jet looks way bigger than .028" but hard to say for sure. Only way to know is to physically check it.

Look at this late model carb pilot air jet. It's a #45. See how super-teeny-weeny it is. Yours should be just a bit bigger. I think yours is wrong but as I said, only way to know is to measure it.

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Reply #66 - 08/03/22 at 17:10:36

So now, if I am correct, you have a bogus mixture screw and probably have a bogus pilot air jet. Those two components work together to provide the correct air/fuel ratio at idle and just off idle. Since they work together, makes sense that you should replace them both with OEM components.

You mentioned you were still trying to find a carb kit. I don't understand why you don't just buy OEM Suzuki parts. There are plenty of on-line sources, plus your local Suzuki motorcycle dealer should be able to get you the parts. Why are you reluctant to purchase genuine Suzuki parts?

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Reply #67 - 08/04/22 at 10:59:42

My bike is an 86.
Not at all against getting genuine parts ( I’d much prefer them ) I’ve put out emails and calls to dealerships for parts and all day they don’t have it. If you have any recommendations of reputable sites to order from I will gladly search on those sites. I don’t have any specific Suzuki shops around me so my only “reluctant” thought is that I buy parts that are junk. I’ve jumped on biting things before and they have turned out like junk so I’m trying to do things properly. I’ve checked mikuni’s site and I haven’t been able to find the carb kit on there.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Problems starting!! HELP! Reply #68 - 08/04/22 at 12:03:07 I'm not so sure there is a difference between a 2018 mixture screw and86. The newer jets are smaller, trying to meet emissions regulations
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TheSneeze Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1226 Northern Nevada Gender:	Re: Problems starting!! HELP! Reply #69 - 08/04/22 at 13:34:08 I have had good luck with OEM parts from Partzilla.com
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ohiomoto Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2778	Re: Problems starting!! HELP! Reply #70 - 08/04/22 at 18:43:46 +1 on Partzilla. My last order was lost in shipping. I emailed them and asked if they could track the package down. They promptly replied that they are shipping out a replacement order. They will arrange return shipping if the original order shows up. Good stuff.
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Reply #71 - 08/04/22 at 19:48:05

I've always had good luck with Babbitts Suzuki Parts House. I live in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. I get parts pretty fast and haven't had any errors with Babbitts. Totally satisfied.

https://www.suzukipartshouse.com/oemparts/c/suzuki_motorcycle/parts

I checked their site for the two parts you currently know are bogus (mixture screw and pilot air bleed). They have a price listed so that generally means the part is available.

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Furby YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 34	Re: Problems starting!! HELP! Reply #72 - 08/15/22 at 13:38:15 Just a quick update, I have ordered the jets and the proper air screw and awaiting delivery! I went with partzilla, super easy ordering and they had all the parts. ( or so it says, we will see when it gets here )
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Furby YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 34	Re: Problems starting!! HELP! Reply #73 - 08/18/22 at 12:04:04 Just got the parts today. Reassembling the carb now. With the new air screw
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Reply #74 - 08/18/22 at 14:47:56

Soooooooooo, I just had a very weird thing that happened to me. I just put the carb back together and installed it. Got everything back together and tried starting it. It almost started… it wouldn’t turn on the starter!
I held start to try to get it going. When it didn’t start up, I let go and it was still trying to crank over, I hit the kill switch and that didn’t stop it either, and the key was out also!
The only thing to make it stop was disconnecting the battery!
Had anyone experienced this before?!

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