I would have thought the media, in the search for truth, would have been quick to bring the opposing voice to the forefront and allow scientific debate to rule the day.

https://gbdeclaration.org/



https://www.zerohedge.com/political/emails-expose-fauci-collins-collusion-sme...

They have "Esperanto" on their signature map.
Espernato is a made up language, not a place.
So WTF is a signature map and who's signing it in Espernato?

How many "widely spoken constructed international auxiliary languages" do you know of?

They were “fringe epidemiologists” because they had the temerity to ask whether the lockdowns of 2020 were effective. Those three, Martin Kulldorff of Harvard, Sunetra Gupta of Oxford, and Jay Bhattacharya of Stanford were simply doing what any good scientist would do: They were following the evidence.

They wrote the Great Barrington Declaration [GBD] as they parted company at AIER, posting it for all to see.

So why was Dr. Collins so intent on impugning these three scientists? It’s hard to know exactly, mostly because any scientist worth his salt should have been happy to see further research being done. That is, after all, how ignorance is replaced by knowledge. But Collins was clearly in no mood to replace his own possible ignorance with any kind of knowledge. He was pretty sure he knew all he had to know; and this is one of the most dangerous positions a scientist can take.

Not important?

While Americans are being swamped from every direction with one message and some credentialed people disagree, adding that to the conversation seems like the thing to do. The ideas are not advanced. I even mentioned the possible negative effects of the mandates. I think we screwed up at every turn. Nobody can prove it, either way. Vaccination is not keeping people from dying. And the reports are without details. Who knows if they weighed four hundred pounds and had diabetes that they weren't taking care of? We have not been given honest numbers to use to make come to solid conclusions. The covid death numbers were dishonest. And I think the vax damage numbers are screwed up.
Call me a cynical person.. I consider myself a realistic person. I've watched media and government push the people to believe things. It's never been good. Usually it is to manufacture consent to get in a war. Or support some bad legislation. So far, the way I see it, the harder they push,the worse it is.
This is the hardest I've seen them push anything.

There is More to say, but I'm not typing an hour.

 I've found that a lot of people confuse Cynical with Skeptical.


 The primary difference to me is a Cynic doesn't need any facts because they already know the answers.  - The Government is always manipulating and is wrong.

 A Skeptic requires facts and can accept multiple outcomes. - The Government has manipulated and may be wrong.

To be fair, in issues regarding Trump, Republicans, conservatives etc… Sew is pretty cynical also….

Eegore wrote on 12/22/21 at 07:06:39:


Parse away.