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07/14/20 at 15:17:08

maybe I should do 2 threads,,

Is it still paranoia to want to have weapons for self defense?

Is it still paranoia to want to have supplies of daily needs and food on hand?

I mean We DID see times in certain areas where cops were unable to respond, did we not?

And WHO is responsible for saving YOUR Neck ?
So,, Is it not wise and reasonable to be able to protect yourself?

And,, How many empty grocery stores did you see?? I saw NO Meat in Sams and Brookshires,,

And other things, well known,, shelves wiped clean,,

So,, dear lefties who have besmirched the preppers and those who would accept responsibility for their own life,,

What say you'NOW??

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Reply #1 - 07/14/20 at 19:26:15

"So,, dear lefties who have besmirched the preppers and those who would accept responsibility for their own life,,

What say you'NOW??"

Who here said anything like that?

I never heard anyone credible say wanting to own firearms is paranoid, or having food stored.

Credible being the operative word. Arguing that having firearms and food with people that already agree is an interesting approach.

Arguing that firearm ownership and food storage is not paranoia with people that are just saying it to piss people off is pointless and that's mostly what I see.

To be clear, where I am, most people are pro-firearm ownership and many are "preppers" so lets keep this in mind for later when I am called anti-gun based off of who is around me.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: just curious Reply #2 - 07/14/20 at 19:32:46 I've been here 15 years. Few remain from the years when they said disparaging things about people who prepare. I don't expect any to raise their hand and own it. I'm just reminding those who remain How wrong they were.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28761 L.A. California Gender:	Re: just curious Reply #3 - 07/16/20 at 13:08:42 there are a lot of new firearm owners in CA all lined up outside of gun stores wearing masks and 6' apart.
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Reply #4 - 07/16/20 at 13:45:13

verslagen1 wrote on 07/16/20 at 13:08:42:

there are a lot of new firearm owners in CA all lined up outside of gun stores wearing masks and 6' apart.

Trying to buy some bullets for their brandy new shootin' irons no doubt. Probably getting as hard to find as toilet paper was a coupla months ago. If they haven't already got a closet full of whatever caliber their new gun needs to feed it, I bet they're gonna be surprised and disappointed if things go sideways in their neighborhoods and they discover that all they got is a odd shaped, very expensive brick. Grin

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Reply #5 - 07/16/20 at 16:43:43

I guess it depends on how one want's to look at available information.

Anti-gun legislation is at an all time high, and certainly perusing Right-wing websites indicates "Millennials", Politicians, Left-leaning activists are pushing to reduce firearm availability in the US. At any time we will lose our right to own firearms due to the success of Lefty misinformation.

But if we look at firearm sales in the US we are at an all-time high. So obviously there isn't a large political push to remove firearms from circulation, I mean just look at how many people are able to legally purchase guns. The 2nd Amendment is alive and well, and obviously the majority is pro-gun and we have nothing to worry about.

What I want to hear, and where I go for that information can alter the outcome of an identical situation.

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Reply #6 - 07/16/20 at 16:59:29

So obviously there isn't a large political push to remove firearms from circulation,

Right now, even the lefties like
Mr.and Mrs.America, turn them all in Pelosi
Has enough sense to realize
They didn't do FUKKALL about the terrorists who took over part of Seattle.
And right now, even democrats are buying their first guns, so, you're looking at a politically driven
Moment of silence..
The goal remains the same.

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Reply #7 - 07/16/20 at 17:08:55

"And right now, even democrats are buying their first guns, so, you're looking at a politically driven
Moment of silence..
The goal remains the same"

This is untrue as long as I only go to websites that support the view I want to believe and cherry-pick the information I will read. So in this case by sticking to the drastic number of approved firearm sales in the US I can stick to the assessment that there isn't a push to take guns from the US citizen. I mean look at all those guns being sold.

Prove that I'm wrong about those firearm sales.

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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 8998 Minn Gender:	Re: just curious Reply #8 - 07/16/20 at 17:22:45 Eegore wrote on 07/14/20 at 19:26:15: ... Who here said anything like that? ... Really ??? REALLY ??????
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8007	Re: just curious Reply #9 - 07/16/20 at 17:26:38 "Really ??? REALLY ??????" Yes. As I thought it was about people not using the forum anymore, some up to 15 years ago possibly.
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Reply #10 - 07/16/20 at 17:36:53

Eegore wrote on 07/16/20 at 16:43:43:

... So obviously there isn't a large political push to remove firearms from circulation, ...

I wonder what the big 6, of the National Media, would say to that ?????

Not to mention the FDS, DFI, Socialists who say:
"I got mine, you can't have yours"

(Empirical evidence of Owners of the Gun shops I frequent, saying they are overwhelmed with DFI's who want a handgun, 'RIGHT NOW', who have NO-IDEA of how it works. who, after they JUMP through all the hoops, say: "I Got Mine")

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .

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Reply #11 - 07/16/20 at 17:54:27

Ill take your AR15...

Biden promises to put Beto O'Rourke in charge of gun control
https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden-promises...
Mar 03, 2020 · Moments after former Democratic presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke — who promised in a September debate to take away legally purchased assault rifles if elected — endorsed Joe Biden’s White House

Nope,, second amendment is safe

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Reply #12 - 07/16/20 at 21:53:26

Prove that I'm wrong about those firearm sales.

Let's not pretend taking one small section of a large issue and challenging people to prove that one small section wrong isn't a regular course of action here.

If I only look at the information that I agree with then the outcome will be the way I want it to be, and a simple way to confirm this is to section off one part and challenge people about it's accuracy.

So as long as I ignore hard to read stuff like actual laws, and stick to the information telling me how many hard-working Americans can easily purchase firearms, confirmed by multiple verified sources, the 2nd Amendment is in full swing. I mean just look at all those firearm sales. Facebook made it clear to me today.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: just curious Reply #13 - 07/16/20 at 23:08:27 I know all about the record sales.. I couldn't be happier. That doesn't mean there aren't people working to undermine the second amendment. Chicago mayor is crying for more right now..
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Reply #14 - 07/17/20 at 05:21:09

That doesn't mean there aren't people working to undermine the second amendment.
Chicago mayor is crying for more right now..

So what I am understanding is just because one component of a large and complex issue indicates one thing, I should not ignore the other components, and actually read the supporting information other people provide as evidence?

What if I hunt down an article showing that one gun-control law was shut down? By that logic I can show gun laws are being shut down, combined with huge legal gun sales and prove the 2nd Amendment is very secure and we have nothing to worry about.

Or is it best I look at the totality of evidence as a whole?

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