This post refers to a fabricated "law" and judgement that has never existed:

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1590608261


 The Stafford Act, enacted in 1988, stipulates that only the President can declare a major disaster under the law.  Trump agrees but according to the Facebook lies that we are expected to use as proof of unconstitutional actions, Trump is wrong and immediately forfeits his position.

" anyone who declares the suspension of constitutionally guaranteed rights… or attempts to enforce such suspension… violate(s) their constitutional oath and, thus, immediately forfeit(s) their office and authority and their proclamations may be disregarded with impunity… even the governor and President.”


 Here Trump clearly enacts the Stafford Act:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/letter-president-donald-j-tru...


 The fake quote refers, poorly, to the Illinois Constitution and the laws that created the Municipal Court of Chicago, not the U.S. Constitution

 So how is this "Dammmed law" proof that any President or Governor have acted against the US Constitution?

 For that matter point out one law, judgment, ruling, anything real and not faked that says this.

 I think there's the potential for substance to your argument, I just don't see where it applies in legal structure.

 Should we alter or eliminate the Stafford Act?  What would be the grounds?

Maybe you dont get the point.. nuts that contradicts the constitution , well,, really cant be the law, can it?

 You were really tired, or extra lubricated since that was posted over a day later.

 I'd say that's the problem with social media as a news or fact source.  Absolutely anyone can type in anything they want without consequence.  This is why I personally don't use it for news.

 For me in this particular issue I would't think so many people need to make up lies if there was an actual law, or judgement that indicated what is going on now is illegal or unconstitutional.  

 Not one news source, legal team, college student, no one at all can cite a real law or judgement?  Wouldn't it make sense that a substantial claim would also be all over social media, or in some college course material?

 What I think is that it is not illegal, by definition, to enact stay-at-home orders.  If we want to revoke those powers we need to do it by changing the actual laws and not try to undermine the current system by word-smithing previous unrelated, or losing court cases or making sh!t up.  Of course that leads to issues like telling everyone else to leave the airport because infected people can never be isolated from the healthy since it restricts personal freedoms.

 Somewhere there is a middle ground that works well, and that middle ground will change as technology and society changes.  One thing for sure is we won't get anywhere as long as we keep falling into these misinformation cycles of posting made up garbage as grounds for change.  We need real law, and real judgement to cite the constitutionality of the current orders.

Think what sits well in your heart,, thats fine,, but when someone Decides For ME what is My acceptable Risk level,, and they cause me to lose my job, house, car,, well,, Id rather take my chances,, thank you.. Im sure it would have saved a buncha lives had the army stopped the wagon trains from heading west,, but,, a free human being moves forward, even in the face of danger.. So,, where does it stop? Riding is too dangerous? What happens if I dont DIE, but get permanently severely disabled and become a burden to society?
Nobody NEEDS to sky dive,, or scuba for pleasure,,
I totally disagree with you on Stay at home orders, closing businesses, churches,,
Does that mean I dont believe more would get sick, more would die? Im not stupid,, but its not Nanny States decision,,

we can't just say those laws are unconstitutional after the fact.  


Yeah,, we can..

If you go read some executive orders that say the government can come and split familie up and take any Energy Sources in storage,, like propane, or a store of gasolinse or diesel,, people like me know its not right,, but I dont have the resources or knowledge tto go argue it,, and pay lawyers,,
You tell me where its in the constitution that our rights are canceled when someone hollers Emergency..