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Reply #15 - 05/26/20 at 12:23:03
 

"If a state disavows federal law enforcement, why not ust finish it and secede?"

 I imagine the time it would take to negotiate international airspace alone would be a nightmare and not worth it.  Anyone choosing to stay in CO would need a new passport, all military, Federal prison staff/inmates would have to leave etc.  Restructure international trade agreements, interstate travel, create a new medical care system, all social security gone.  

 I'd rather use the system that's worked for years than create a new country.
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Reply #16 - 05/26/20 at 12:23:19
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/26/20 at 10:49:37:
If a state disavows federal law enforcement, why not ust finish it and secede?




That's cos they want to secede without taking up their share of the debt and want to use the rest of the infrastructure etc etc.

Cool.
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Reply #17 - 05/26/20 at 16:15:50
 
Eegore wrote on 05/26/20 at 12:23:03:
 I imagine the time it would take to negotiate international airspace alone would be a nightmare and not worth it.  Anyone choosing to stay in CO would need a new passport, all military, Federal prison staff/inmates would have to leave etc.  Restructure international trade agreements, interstate travel, create a new medical care system, all social security gone.  I'd rather use the system that's worked for years than create a new country.

negotiate international airspace
Gee, no international flights fly across CO now ?
No flights from France fly over Germany ?
(ETC/ETC/ETC/...)
Rather easy to do.
(Unless you get paid by the hour to talk)

Anyone choosing to stay in CO would need a new passport,
Anyone choosing to be a Citizen of the new Country would need a new passport. And very easily done.
And this new Country could allow Citizens of the USA to live inside, just like a whole Bunch of other Countries do !

all military, would have to leave etc.  
Why ?  I guess the USA has NO Military instantiations in ANY OTHER COUNTRY !

Federal prison staff/inmates, would have to leave
Why ?  The new Country could not contract to take over that facility.
Or the USA could not move those people out ?

Restructure international trade agreements,
Could be real simple, Goods made in the USA allowed,
goods made in China 200% Teriff.
Yes Virginia, Lots and Lots of other places, and if Mexico can do it,  people in the new Country would be able to.

interstate travel,
The same as most of Europe, Ya don't know you are in a different Country, unless the language on the signs changes.

create a new medical care system,
And a newly created one, ANY, newly created one. Would be so much better.
(Well except for those who's paycheck depends on Grants, Foundations, Subsidizes, from another Government)

all social security gone.

Really ?  If Bot moves to the UK, ya mean he cannot collect SS ?
(Don't worry bot, you can !)

So this new Country, in the middle of the Nation USA, IS,
totally, absolutely, and clearly possible.

Would it take some work, Sure,
but that is NOT a reason to spread FEAR.




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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #18 - 05/26/20 at 17:23:30
 
"Gee, no international flights fly across CO now ?"

 Not what I said, but going to the extreme example is a good way to attempt to discredit my example.  I very specifically said "negotiating" is not "worth it" as in the possibility exists to have international flights, and that process would be negotiated.  Just not worth it.

 Obviously your definition of easy and mine are different, and my assessment of what's "worth it" is different.


"Would it take some work, Sure,
but that is NOT a reason to spread FEAR
."

 I'm pretty sure any intentional spreading of FEAR has nothing to do with attempts to keep CO from becoming a sovereign country.

 
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