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Re: What is the explanation for the US toll?
Reply #45 - 04/06/20 at 11:51:00
 
Eegore wrote on 04/06/20 at 10:14:59:
"and who is figuring in the asymptomatic? and How are they doing it?"

 How would you recommend getting a figure on asymptomatic people?

 If we are going that route I would like to factor in how many left handed people are in there too.  There's no way to know, but I want those figures factored in.


Exact figures? No.. NO WAY TO KNOW, however, Weve seen ships with known numbers of people, known ages, known preexisting conditions and the exact number of infected, symptomatic and asymptomatic.
Pretending those numbers are without value in coming up with approximate ratios of asymptomatic people walking around, unwittingly spreading it, is ludicrous. And USING that approximate to develop a better feel for the mortality rate is reasonable.
Why arent ALL the people on a ship affected? Are some simply not exposed? Or maybe some are immune? Maybe some blood tests would show that some of the people who didnt get sick were immune because of some earlier exposure to something that created antibodies that protect against this thing, too.

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Reply #46 - 04/06/20 at 12:22:29
 

(The 1st Ship, then the next ones)
"...Pretending those numbers are without value in coming up with approximate ratios of asymptomatic people walking around, unwittingly spreading it, is ludicrous ..."


Rather SPOT ON !!!!!

"... who didnt get sick were immune because of some earlier exposure to something that created antibodies that protect against this thing, ..."


Perhaps a 'flu shot', for one of the myriad of variations, or combos given, has something to do with it ?

Next, (which we will only know after the fact),
the 'normal' flu numbers, should go way down,
WAY DOWN,
because never has this Nation in recent times,
ever issued such orders as,
not this, not that, etc.

Those unanswered questions all lead to,
'Why is the Media and Politicians doing everything they can do,
to scare people ?
(Besides, filling their pockets with money)



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Re: What is the explanation for the US toll?
Reply #47 - 04/06/20 at 12:38:51
 
"Pretending those numbers are without value in coming up with approximate ratios of asymptomatic people walking around, unwittingly spreading it, is ludicrous."

 I'm not saying it is without value.  I presented my material here, right at 336 pages and they all included the ship data.  Did you even bother to run the numbers?

 What I am saying is that the numbers being used to support each other's arguments are different, and utilized differently.  It's like comparing fuel usage on a lawnmower per square foot and also per blade of grass cut.  Saying it cuts millions of blades of grass per tank of gas sounds way better than saying it cuts 500 square feet per tank.

 In this example there is no way to know how many blades were cut unless you spend tons of time counting grass, and at that there will still be considerable issue since not all blades are sucked into the bag so the count will never be accurate.  

 So here we have someone saying "Why is the gas mileage on this mower so inefficient when compared to that Italian one?" and someone else saying "Why isn't anyone counting the blades of grass?  This thing performs great, it cuts millions of blades per tank."

 Different math for the same subject.
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Re: What is the explanation for the US toll?
Reply #48 - 04/06/20 at 12:43:47
 

"'Why is the Media and Politicians doing everything they can do,
to scare people ?"


 Are you indicating that social distancing is scary?

 I'm not sure what is being put out there to scare people, can you provide examples?  There is a shortage of medical supplies in certain areas.  People are dying from a series of complications at a rate faster than what medical facilities can treat without additional support, modification and supply.

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Re: What is the explanation for the US toll?
Reply #49 - 04/06/20 at 13:02:02
 
Eegore wrote on 04/06/20 at 12:43:47:
"'Why is the Media and Politicians doing everything they can do,
to scare people ?"


 Are you indicating that social distancing is scary?

 I'm not sure what is being put out there to scare people, can you provide examples?  There is a shortage of medical supplies in certain areas.  People are dying from a series of complications at a rate faster than what medical facilities can treat without additional support, modification and supply.

   




Yup, certain Libtard areas.
Really, you wanna social distance people in NYC and Skid Row - easy - transport them into the middle of Montana. Its only about 20-30 million people, just beam them off one at a time, drop em 10-20 feet from each other, let them know to stay that far from the next person. Tell them a weeks worth of rations will be available at drop off and will be refilled once the week is over and to not go near the next person.

Should barely cost $300 Million or so and well, the beaming technology should be invented. Yea there's that hurdle.

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Re: What is the explanation for the US toll?
Reply #50 - 04/06/20 at 14:51:20
 
Eegore wrote on 04/06/20 at 12:43:47:
 Are you indicating that social distancing is scary?    

No. You are 'indicating', that I said that.

I'm not sure what is being put out there to scare people ... provide examples?

Any examples I provide, you would tell me I am wrong.
So, no reason to waste my time, or yours.

There is a shortage of medical supplies in certain areas.  

And that is happening in, what, areas ?

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Re: What is the explanation for the US toll?
Reply #51 - 04/06/20 at 15:36:51
 
Eegore wrote on 04/06/20 at 12:38:51:
 Different math for the same subject.




Yes you said it - Libtard pump and dump - Like I posted in reply #3 to this retarded question.

I have posted about this before - 77% are in democrap areas.

Democraps are filthy pigs ?
Democraps live in 3rd world like slums ?
Democraps are cry babies ?
Democraps are using this as a excuse to complain about Trump ?
Democraps are looking for freebies and piling onto free chitte ?
Democraps are likely piling onto busses and trains cos its the green thing to do ?
Democraps live in apartments where if you're in "isolation" you're isolating with everyone in the building due to central heating.
Democraps are international travelers cos many of them are foreigners especially Chinese and Indian ?

Take your pick - its likely a bunch of these.

Libtards account for 77% and climbing of deaths and fatalities and soon we'll be at 90% libtard and I'd be shocked if we don't hit 99% libtard. AKA, 100% of libtards want to martyr themselves to removing president and after the failed impeachment, the Virus is the next best hope. Remember they know dead libtards still vote democratic even without vote fraud in the equation. More dead libtards = worse president looks. They know that. So we're in unprecedented territory of libtards falling in front of the train to try to stop it before it gets to election station.

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Re: What is the explanation for the US toll?
Reply #52 - 04/06/20 at 16:07:19
 
"And that is happening in, what, areas ?"

 Any examples I provide you will say is wrong.  That they took all these supplies home to their families or something similar.

 So, I guess there's no reason to waste my time, or yours.
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Re: What is the explanation for the US toll?
Reply #53 - 04/06/20 at 16:09:10
 
srinath wrote on 04/06/20 at 15:36:51:
" ...77% are in democrap areas ..."

Yep sure does look like it.

"... Democraps live in apartments where if you're in "isolation" you're isolating with everyone in the building due to central heating ..."

This I am not sure about.
Many UL DFI FDS Socialists live in Mansions.
Like one I know, owns big chunk of a Island.
One lives in the, 'Arrowhead' area of  Minn and winters in Tuscon AZ.
One owns a Ranch in ND, and winters in Tahoe NM.
And know of one, who STEALS money in DC,
and spends it in a WALLED IN compound, in Calf.

Their is a reason, a whole bunch are called, 'Limousine Liberals' !

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Re: What is the explanation for the US toll?
Reply #54 - 04/06/20 at 16:28:55
 
Many posts in this thread,
I believe,
are like the one I received from a Nigerian Royal Councilman.

Who told me I had 12 million Euros just waiting to be recovered,
because I was a long lost relative of a Nigerian patriot.

Even though, I was born night,
no reason to write back,
because it was not last night.

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Reply #55 - 04/06/20 at 16:38:01
 

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Reply #56 - 04/06/20 at 22:44:22
 
"Next, (which we will only know after the fact),
the 'normal' flu numbers, should go way down,
WAY DOWN,
because never has this Nation in recent times,
ever issued such orders as,
not this, not that, etc."


  To see "normal flu" numbers go down we would have to start social distancing in early September and maintain it through March.  Also there is a vaccine so that helps keep numbers low.

 To see a comparable event we would need to have one year without vaccinations at all, then a year with long-term social distancing.
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Re: What is the explanation for the US toll?
Reply #57 - 04/07/20 at 05:41:58
 
MnSpring wrote on 04/06/20 at 16:09:10:
srinath wrote on 04/06/20 at 15:36:51:
" ...77% are in democrap areas ..."

Yep sure does look like it.

"... Democraps live in apartments where if you're in "isolation" you're isolating with everyone in the building due to central heating ..."

This I am not sure about.
Many UL DFI FDS Socialists live in Mansions.
Like one I know, owns big chunk of a Island.
One lives in the, 'Arrowhead' area of  Minn and winters in Tuscon AZ.
One owns a Ranch in ND, and winters in Tahoe NM.
And know of one, who STEALS money in DC,
and spends it in a WALLED IN compound, in Calf.

Their is a reason, a whole bunch are called, 'Limousine Liberals' !





The politicians getting wealthy should be a freaking crime. How in the world do you get rich off 125K was it a year. Same reason why they spend 3-50 million in 2-6 months campaigning for a 125K a yr job.
The same freaking reason illegals come here and work under the table for below minimum wage - their reward is the US citizen anchor babies and the free education we give them as well as all the other free chitte courtesy bleeding heart charities and fake religion BS where they go hide in a church etc.
The other thing  is, most of the worlds wealthy atleast in the US have made most of their $$$ very very fast. Face book, google, Musk to name just a few. They are all heavily liberal because they need H1's to use as leverage against US citizens to rob both blind.
However the vast majority of citizens who are democrap are completely unaware and are actively voting against their self interest - Remember only citizens are supposed to vote. The illegals and dead people always vote democratic but there are citizens - for example 70% of Indian origin in 16 voted democrap. For Obama it was near 95%. That is actively voting against your self interest. Ofcourse in 2012 Romney was not talking about cutting down on H1's so we had 2 terrible options in that regard.

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