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Re: Removing the steering stem
Reply #45 - 03/14/20 at 09:23:44
 
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Reply #46 - 03/14/20 at 10:35:45
 
" If you can't fix it with a hammer, it must be an electrical problem "
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Re: Removing the steering stem
Reply #47 - 03/14/20 at 12:28:19
 
Gary_in_NJ wrote on 03/12/20 at 06:38:25:
I get the feeling that this might be one of those threads that goes 10...maybe 20 pages.

Hit the dang thing with a hammer and allow us to get on with life.
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This stuff isn't the rocket science a lot of people on here turn it into.
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Re: Removing the steering stem
Reply #48 - 06/27/20 at 08:05:28
 
I tried to remove the lower bearing of the steering stem but I think there is a piece left. Should the contact surface for the bearing rollers be removed before I install my new bearings? (should that piece come off?)
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Reply #49 - 06/27/20 at 08:19:28
 
That's the entire inner race that's left.
Put a drift punch that can "catch" the edge and hit it with a hammer.
Whatever you do, do not heat it.
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Re: Removing the steering stem
Reply #50 - 06/27/20 at 08:31:15
 
Yep,, gotta get that off,, If youre not equipped with a heat source,, youre gonna need to be,

Do you have a good vise. hammer, chisel?
You can get a torch head at Lowes,,

https://www.lowes.com/pd/BernzOmatic-Pencil-Flame-Torch-Head/1114435?cm_mmc=s...

https://www.lowes.com/pd/BernzOmatic-Pencil-Flame-Torch-Head/1114435?cm_mmc=s...

and instead of the blue propane bottle, get Mapp gas,, Yellow bottle,,

Id heat a section of that racewhile its in the vise, and, using just about 1/2" of the Sharp chisel, knock a groove in it, Ohh,, Id Start by grinding, at least get the edges cut down, and if you have a cut off grinder, you can seriously
affect the structural integrity of that bearing race..

Anyway. the object is to make that bearing race grow.
It grows with heat,, but shrinks again,, If you heat it, you can bang on it, anything, chisel a line across it, that makes it longer, which make it loosen up.

IDK what goes in the slot that I see is misshapen,,If thats inportant to have it looking as much like it did before that metal got mashed outta place and something is supposed to be IN that slot,, Dont just grind that metal away. Itll peen back into place,, with a buncha light hits. Then grind,file, whatever.
And that aluminum isnt gonna like getting too hot,
And its a heat sink, making your job harder.

If youre not up to it, a welder can handle it,,
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Re: Removing the steering stem
Reply #51 - 06/27/20 at 08:32:25
 
srinath wrote on 06/27/20 at 08:19:28:
That's the entire inner race that's left.
Put a drift punch that can "catch" the edge and hit it with a hammer.
Whatever you do, do not heat it.
Cool.
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Well,, I was typing, while you were posting,, Why not use heat?

And,, I went full on Nukular,, of course try penetrating oil and see if that thing will slip on down,,a punch and hammer,, best start.
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Re: Removing the steering stem
Reply #52 - 06/27/20 at 09:58:50
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/27/20 at 08:32:25:
srinath wrote on 06/27/20 at 08:19:28:
Whatever you do, do not heat it.
Cool.
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Well,, I was typing, while you were posting,, Why not use heat?

And,, I went full on Nukular,,

Why am I not surprised?...  Grin
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Re: Removing the steering stem
Reply #53 - 06/27/20 at 17:09:11
 
srinath wrote on 06/27/20 at 17:08:44:
Jeez guys, cast aluminum, mild steel, hardened steel and all 3 in intererference fit.

To quote our German friend from a few posts ago -

Just crappity smack it. It comes out like truth when you squeeze a perp.

I've likely de-frucked 50 of these standard 90's Suzuki lower stem 30mm ID bearings out of stems. Put it in a vice, put a drift cut to the right angle against it, and just freaking crappity smack it.

Sometimes it takes a lot of talking to and nuanced and BS … and the right policy and this or that.

This is not one of those. Bigger hammer wins if you get the right bite on the drift punch.

OP - Dude don't work like old people fcuk 0 again quoting our german friend - Just "crappity smack it" and the bearing will fly outta there.

To seat a new one in, grease up the stem and put bearing and a PVC pipe over it and - well - crappity smack it on.

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Re: Removing the steering stem
Reply #54 - 06/28/20 at 08:25:41
 
Got the crap off but darn it wasn't pretty.  Blasting it made it a little bit better but it wont pass any closer inspection.
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Re: Removing the steering stem
Reply #55 - 06/28/20 at 08:36:18
 
OMG how did you chew up the steering stop ? In fact the stem marks are bad too IMHO - I take em off clean. Even on a welded stem.
Savage stem I'd have it pressed out at the stem …
Y'know I am going to start a mail in service for these - cos I am also planning on making raked out FE's. Might as well help out people for real.

Anyway hand sand those rough spots on the stem. You'd be fine. Then grease and freaking hit the new inner race - HARD with pipe and big hammer.

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Re: Removing the steering stem
Reply #56 - 06/28/20 at 09:17:10
 
The marks on the stop was caused when my hammer drill slipped on the bearing ring. I don't have any good tools or a vice so I had to make due with what I had. As usual thing on my bike is stuck beyond what you guys have ever seen or heard of so normal "rules" don't apply. Force needed to remove are 10 times what's normally needed and things are rusted together. Aluminium parts hare heavily pitted.

At least my blasting cabinet and new air compressor is working. Maybe a little TOO good. Even though I am using glass beads the abrasive removing of clear lacquer and rust is insane.
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Re: Removing the steering stem
Reply #57 - 06/28/20 at 17:25:54
 
You have air
Get an air chisel.
You canknock that thing theHELLoff in a second with an air chisel,,
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Re: Removing the steering stem
Reply #58 - 06/28/20 at 17:26:48
 
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AS LOng as ya move the pressure from side to side, itll walk off.. You keep beating on one side because it moved,, it will lock down,,
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Re: Removing the steering stem
Reply #59 - 06/28/20 at 22:09:25
 
I beg to differ. I first tried to use the edge of the bearing race but it just broke off so instead I had the use the Dremel to cut a groove and apply force with the drill hammer to rotate the ring instead of driving it up the stem. I had to do this again and again and make new grooves in the ring until finally it broke loose enough to apply force in an angle so I could get it of the stem.

I don't yet have an air chisel but realize I have to buy one. That however means I will have to get a big air tank for my compressor and make some adjustments in the programming of the variable frequency drive. As of now, it is only connected to a small 24 liter buffer tank. It is made for blasting work primarily with the possibility of "regular" after some configuration changes.
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