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The second week of public impeachment hearings has concluded, with nine witnesses testifying before the House Intelligence Committee over three days. This has forced both parties to confront distinct realities.

For Republicans, it has become clear that a quid pro quo scheme with Ukraine very likely existed at the direction of the president, and by many measures was unethical and well below the standards of conduct that Americans expect from their elected public officials. For Democrats, it has become clear that the case for impeachment that they have set forth is unlikely to convince any Republicans to remove Donald Trump from office, and that the impeachment vote will almost certainly fall along party lines.

Americans heard hours of testimony from several career national security officials and political appointees, including an amended testimony from the ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sondland, as well as from a deputy assistant secretary at the Defense Department, Laura Cooper. Sondland testified that Trump directly conditioned aid to Ukraine on a political favor, undercutting one of the main White House defenses that officials conducting this backchannel diplomacy with Ukraine had been freelancing rather than acting at the direction of the president himself.

Further, Sondland testified that he had been working with the personal lawyer of Trump, Rudy Giuliani, on backchannel diplomacy with Ukraine under the “express direction of the president of the United States.” He said, “I know that members of this committee frequently frame these complicated issues in the form of a simple question. Was there a quid pro quo? As I testified previously, with regard to the requested White House call and the White House meeting, the answer is yes” on that.

Just hours after his testimony, Cooper filled in further details, telling the panel that on the day of the phone call when Trump asked the Ukrainian president for a favor, Ukrainian officials had reached out to her Defense Department office aware that there was some issue with the release of military aid. “I would say specifically, the Ukrainian embassy staff asked what is going on with Ukrainian security assistance,” Cooper testified.

While it is now undeniable that Trump and his inner circle had engaged in improper conduct, and these hours of public testimony have contributed in numerous ways to framing the Democratic impeachment narrative, the actual impact that the inquiry will have on the president remains unclear. However, we can say with near certainty that Trump will not be removed, and that impeachment is turning into a political loser for Democrats.

According to an Emerson College poll released this week, support for impeachment has flipped against Democrats. Last month, 48 percent of Americans surveyed supported impeachment, while 44 percent opposed. This month, 43 percent are in support and 45 percent are opposed. The most seismic shift was among independents, who oppose impeachment 49 percent to 34 percent. This marks a stunning reversal from last month, when these voters supported impeachment 48 percent to 39 percent.

Democrats have failed to truly shift public opinion and build a national consensus that Trump deserves to be impeached and removed from office. After two weeks of public testimony and depositions, Democrats were unable to persuade Representative Will Hurd of Texas, a moderate Republican that many Democrats had hoped would cross party lines and come out in favor of impeachment. At the hearing, he said he had “not heard evidence proving the president committed bribery or extortion.”

Indeed, the impending articles of impeachment will certainly be voted on along party lines, thus making it impossible for Democrats to achieve the majority required for conviction in the Senate. Once this process comes to a close, Democrats will essentially be handing Trump an exoneration, adding fuel to his claim that Democrats are solely focused on their smear campaign against him instead of trying to work with him.

In the coming weeks, it will be crucial for Democrats to consider the political implications that this inquiry will have on the election next year. When the first votes are cast, it will be issues like health care, economic equality, climate change, and gun control that drive people to the ballot box. If Democrats are going to be successful in 2020, they will have to pivot from impeachment and focus on the core issues that everyday Americans are concerned with or risk another four years of Trump.

Douglas E. Schoen (@DouglasESchoen) served as a pollster for President Clinton.


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Reply #1 - 11/24/19 at 20:30:30
 
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Where is Nancy Pelosi on impeachment?

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One of the many things American politicians have lost in recent years is the ability to hold a poker face and sit on one's hand for a bit. This is a bad thing in itself, but it is also a great loss for everyone in a democracy when one cannot complain about what a sinister, secretive bunch most of our leaders are. Smoke-filled rooms have given way to live-streamed dentist appointments and 40-page campaign PDFs. Anyone who thinks that President Trump's Twitter account is an aberration that will not be continued by his successors is not thinking through the implications of this technology for people as narcissistic as politicians.

Practically the only living elected official of any consequence who still does not give away everything she is doing or thinking is Nancy Pelosi. I suspect that this, more so even than her leadership status, is what makes her such a bogeyman in the right-wing imagination.

What, for instance, does Pelosi actually think about impeachment? No one resisted the process more forcefully and for longer than the speaker of the House, who correctly intuited long ago that it would be unpopular and, this close to the next election, unnecessary, at least for a party with any actual ambition of retaking the White House. When she found herself in September with no other choice, she allowed her caucus to hold hearings that have at least been described as "impeachment inquiries," and even began using the word herself. She has stepped up her rhetoric too. As Rep. Jim Jordan (R.) reminded us over and over again during the last week of intelligence committee testimony, she has called Trump an "imposter."

But this is not the same thing as actually desiring the impeachment process to advance as far as the drawing up of articles, much less to an up-or-down vote on the issue. "We aren't finished, the day is not over," she told reporters Thursday. Many people, especially among her party's activist base and even within her own House caucus will interpret this as a commitment to seeing impeachment through to the end. I am not so sure. When she adds that the "testimony of one person may lead to the need for testimony of another," what I take away from it is that she would prefer to see impeachment-related hearings go on for a few more months until suddenly she is able to declare, without losing any face among her more enthusiastic members, that the White House's continued obstruction has simply dragged on the process for too long and that the whole thing is, alas, no longer viable. Time to win at the ballot box!

Her party's fate in next year's elections — and not just in the presidential column — is clearly a subject with which she remains more occupied than she is with whatever Rudy Giuliani was whispering in the ears of Eurasian diplomats over the summer. While the country turned its eyes to the fourth and (so far) final day of impeachment hearings, Pelosi was meeting with Robert Lighthizer, Trump's point man on the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement, the new trade deal negotiated by the White House to replace NAFTA. The day before that, she quietly passed a bill that would impose economic sanctions on China for its actions in Hong Kong. This was a political masterstroke. If Trump refuses to sign the bill out of concern for ongoing trade negotiations it proves that he has a dictator fetish and is too cowardly to defend human rights; if he does sign it and trade talks go south, well, look at what a mess he has made of things!

A year is a long time for this Congress to have gone without any significant legislative work apart from anti-Trump scandal-mongering, something that the president and his allies are likely to bring up over and over again in 2020. Pelosi has anticipated this line of criticism and is doing everything she can to shift the blame for congressional inertia on to the White House.

What does this tell us? Many things, chief among them how foolish some young eager progressive types are for snubbing Pelosi, much less even entertaining the idea of replacing her as speaker. Posting your latest Ikea furniture project on Instagram and calling Trump a "motherf—" is easy. Outwitting an incumbent president half the country supports during an election year with almost no help from your own party is not.

It is a testament to her remarkable instincts that Pelosi would be the last person to point this out.


Now, think about what you just read......  Huh
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A year is a long time for this Congress to have gone without any significant legislative work apart from anti-Trump scandal-mongering-

A bald, demonstrable lie.   Check the record.   An author who so abjures reality- you find his voice remarkable?   Sadly typical.
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What...you need about 4 more, before you can make a circle?
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raydawg wrote on 11/25/19 at 09:33:26:
What...


Being shameless doesn't mean "without guilt"- it just describes a lack character, personal substance.  
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