WebsterMark wrote on 08/07/19 at 09:40:48:


There's a reason our Constitution is over 230 years, mark.

The Bill Of Rights isn't going anywhere.  To think otherwise is paranoid.

And they have less gun violence,
just like removing red cars, (less red car accidents).

They have just as much, Violence, as before.

Only now, no quick way to stop it.

But one could call 911, like someone did in Tucson, and what was it Bot, 4 hours, before response ?

Anyone that thinks the big bad Government is going to go around kicking in doors and "taking guns" as an approach to mass murder and citizen control is living in a fantasy world.  

Comparing us to Afghanistan makes sense to a degree, but the US is not in control of the power, water, air quality etc. in that theatre.  There are many more options in home-territory.  Bottom line is your guns, and mine, will not stop a Government Takeover.

I don't believe anyone said kicking in doors as an approach to mass murder. Government take overs start slow and small until restricting weapon ownership is just another freedom given away.

You're wrong Eegore. Our guys will deter an attempted takeover and should one actually begin, the pain will be significant enough I don't believe the American boys forced into the military would have the heart to wipe out fellow Americans.

Think this through. Imagine 25 years from now, the socialist train has been running down the tracks all this time. Practically everything we do is regulated or enforced by one government agency or another. President AOC finally decides to enforce the EU laws about electrical usage. There's a mini revolt and protest of sorts. It escalates to a couple hundred thousand marching saying "Hell No, we won't turn off the lights" or something like that. Police (who are now essentially military personnel) are called out to quell the protest. Violence breaks out. People are killed ala Kent State. It escalates. President AOC sends in more troops. More fighting. Finally a group from Montana say "Fxxx this, get out of our state." and they ban together at the border. Wyoming joins, then ND & SD. All of a sudden, we've got a 15,000 armed civilians refusing to follow President AOC's demands. Her government issued solar panels are dumped into the Missouri River in a recreation of the Boston Tea Party.

President AOC orders a full on attack. It looks like Afghanistan. Door to door, looking for 'insurgents'. There are shootings, killings. Some homemade bombs....  

President AOC is tempted to carpet bomb that fly over country into dust but can't do that. The fighting drags on. Others join in the fight. Pretty soon the army personnel are beginning to say "What the hell are we doing?"

That's what the founders envisioned if the government they were establishing began turning against the citizenry much like the way England turned against them.

WebsterMark wrote on 08/07/19 at 14:20:33:



What a terrible piece of fiction.  But it is kinda funny/amusing.

And once again,.. the founders envisioned an invasion by King George to get his territory back.
A militia wasn't intended to to crush the union we just created.

You really don't know crap about American history, do you?

I'm sorry, but what the F does that have to do with the addition of the 2nd Amendment in the Bill of Rights???

WebsterMark wrote on 08/07/19 at 15:30:44:


You accused me of not knowing history...
I know it better than you.

Screaming that the 2nd amendment protects my guns,.. is not having an understanding of history.
The Constitution is more nuanced than that.
I'm not a Constitutional scholar. Neither are you,... nor is Trump.(I seriously doubt if Trump has even read it).
Obama,... is...