T And T Garage wrote on 08/06/19 at 20:19:13:Eegore wrote on 08/06/19 at 19:57:56:"The only reasonable solution is
FUKKING SURRENDER?"
I wouldn't. But I do accept that an aircraft carrier strike group will make short work of my personal stash of weapons and ammo. Its called reality.
In reality a battle between civilian and the US military would be exceptionally one-sided. That's not even taking into consideration the CDC and all the biological weaponization.
Like I said before, some tech guys would do more damage these days than anyone's stash of food, guns and ammo. Times have changed, fight the battle you can win.
Well put once again Eegore. This is a topic that's been brought up before and our leftist friends don't have much of a response. And apparently neither does Eegore.
You mention a civilian military would have no chance against a strike group.
Yeh, I'd say that's pretty accurate.
Then why are we still screwing around in Afghanistan? Why are we just the latest country to flail helplessly in that place? Why is our war on terror going on and on.....decades.
Money. Government contractors. "War on terror" propaganda. Take your pick. It's got nothing to do with "democracy".
Why is Israel still plagued by the Palestinians throwing rocks or blowing up one pizza parlor at a time? Blackhawk Down was on TV the other day. Why did we lose a single solider in that $hithole?
See above.
All for the same reason. We don't use our full force. Clinton refused orders (and correctly so) for gun ships in the Mogadishu situation. Israel could end the Palestinians tomorrow if they wanted to. We could be done with this war on terror by the weekend if we wanted to. But none of those things are going to happen.
The simple fact is a full on attack on US citizens by a US military force would result in the same thing. Set aside for a moment the attacking force would be made up of American boys some of who would have serious hesitation, the Afghanistan or War on Terror situation would be duplicated. If you're not going to carpet bomb the neighborhood and then go pick up the pieces, you've got to one house at a time. There are places in Southern Missouri I know where the boys there would wage quite a fight. I dare you to go up to Montana and send in a force. Can you say "Red Dawn"!
Can you say - complete Hollywood bullsh!t? There would be no need for any ground assault. Drones would do the work - but keep it real - this scenario will never happen. Look no further than the bundy's pathetic militia standoff in Montana. One of the other great arguments I've heard about this is to imagine what if slaves in the early days of the US had been allowed to own firearms. This is a thought experiment so don't get hung up on the details. If slaves had firearms, you think some owner would sell that guys kids? You think they'd stand by and get whipped?
Strawman. Different time, different weapons, different attitudes. Completely non-relatable.The US Government is not be able to turn its military against its citizens in a manner that preserves the nation. And that is why we have a 2nd Amendment. To repel our own military as an invading force.