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Re: At Least 9 Dead In Dayton
Reply #180 - 08/10/19 at 09:13:40
 
Eegore wrote on 08/09/19 at 20:13:48:
willing to accept that there are too many illegal methods of firearm acquisition

Agree !  
Just as illegal methods of accusation occur with just about anything.

outlandish far right or left stances and go even further with ridiculous comparisons

Many comparisons are not ridicules.
As well as Phrases:
Like the often used: ‘Enforce the laws already on the books’

Another example, some, will say is, ’ridicules’.

A Felon (who is released from jail) walks into a gun store.
(At that point they have already violated Federal law)
They fill out a 4473, (for the purchase of a gun) which they LIE on several places.
The dealer calls it in, they are ‘Denied’,  Dealer tells them they are Deniened.
The Felon says, ‘OK See Ya’ then leaves.
What do you think will happen ?
(I’ll tell you,  NOTHING)

A Person walks into a bank,  puts their hand in their coat pocket, with a finger pointing through the fabric.
Says to the teller, ‘give me all your money’
The teller says, ’NO’, ‘I know that is a hand in your pocket’.
The person ‘asking’ for the money says, ‘OK see ya’ then leaves.
What do you think will happen ?

Both people attempted to commit a, Federal Crime.
One is prosecuted, the other is not.
(gee tt would call that, ‘Racist’)
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Re: At Least 9 Dead In Dayton
Reply #181 - 08/10/19 at 23:57:29
 
Firearms aren't the problem, the person using it for something other than the intended purpose is the problem.

Look at the idiots swallowing laundry detergent. Do we need to have background checks just to be able to buy a box of detergent to do our laundry? We need to fix the problem, not treat the symptom.
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Re: At Least 9 Dead In Dayton
Reply #182 - 08/11/19 at 09:40:34
 
I was in Wal-Mart on the soap aisle.
Lady working there, straightening stuff up.
I walked up and asked where the Tide pods were. She showed them to me, pointed out the different quantity containers.
You should've seen her face when I asked if they had any Snack Packs.
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Re: At Least 9 Dead In Dayton
Reply #183 - 08/11/19 at 09:48:33
 
Fast 650 wrote on 08/10/19 at 23:57:29:
Firearms aren't the problem, the person using it for something other than the intended purpose is the problem.

Look at the idiots swallowing laundry detergent. Do we need to have background checks just to be able to buy a box of detergent to do our laundry? We need to fix the problem, not treat the symptom.

These guys need access to assault weapons... Grin
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Reply #184 - 08/11/19 at 10:14:29
 
I don't have the cure
I know more laws are not I
do you think the mary jane black market has subsided in recreation legal states?
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Reply #185 - 08/11/19 at 14:32:23
 
thumperclone wrote on 08/11/19 at 10:14:29:
do you think the mary jane black market has subsided in recreation legal states?

That's interesting, don't know.
Is their someone that would know a oz cost 'X' amount in the 'approved' store, and the same quality oz, costs 'x' amount in the dark alley ?
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Reply #186 - 08/11/19 at 16:56:15
 
MnSpring wrote on 08/09/19 at 09:17:30:
T And T Garage wrote on 08/09/19 at 08:59:39:
The problem is mn

Not my problem, you don't know how things work.

Very clear, you are just repeating, what you are, TOLD to say.

Oh, how's that Socialism working you for ya ?

Democratic Socialism is working great for me - how many times are you going to ask the same question. Do you have a disability?

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Are you serious?  Do you have any idea what context is?

I was not saying "the problem is mn."

In context - The problem is mn - I do know how it works.

Now, I will admit, the hyphen may be poorly placed, but anyone (except you, I guess) can see that I was stating that I do indeed know how face to face transfers work.

You naively think that all those good ol' boys are gonna do their due diligence.  That's hilarious!
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Reply #187 - 08/11/19 at 17:12:07
 
T And T Garage wrote on 08/11/19 at 16:56:15:
You naively think that all those good ol' boys are gonna do their due diligence.  That's hilarious!

I know for a fact it isn't, because I have been offered gun trades for bikes I've had for sale.  Multiple times.
Straight across,.. no questions asked.
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Reply #188 - 08/11/19 at 19:02:34
 
Serowbot wrote on 08/11/19 at 17:12:07:
... I have been offered gun trades for bikes ...

You used the word, HAVE,
So that means you did not ?
So did you do, YOUR, due diligence ?
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Reply #189 - 08/11/19 at 19:09:09
 
T And T Garage wrote on 08/11/19 at 16:56:15:
You naively think that all those good ol' boys are gonna do their due diligence.  

From the news reports, rather clear that all the, 'good ol' boys', killing off the equivalent +, of a school shooting, every weekend in Chicago, are not doing any, due diligence.

Criminals, due, due diligence, WHEN ?
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Reply #190 - 08/11/19 at 19:46:36
 

"Look at the idiots swallowing laundry detergent. Do we need to have background checks just to be able to buy a box of detergent to do our laundry?"

 If they kill 50 people in a nightclub with laundry detergent then yes.

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Reply #191 - 08/11/19 at 19:48:23
 

"You used the word, HAVE,
So that means you did not ?
So did you do, YOUR, due diligence ?"


 Due diligence in this case means you simply are not aware that someone has committed crime.  Federal law requires nothing more than State ID and ignorance of the person's background.  That's it.

 When you trade/sell guns what do you do beyond making sure they have valid State ID?
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Reply #192 - 08/12/19 at 05:36:08
 
MnSpring wrote on 08/11/19 at 19:09:09:
T And T Garage wrote on 08/11/19 at 16:56:15:
You naively think that all those good ol' boys are gonna do their due diligence.  

From the news reports, rather clear that all the, 'good ol' boys', killing off the equivalent +, of a school shooting, every weekend in Chicago, are not doing any, due diligence.

Criminals, due, due diligence, WHEN ?


They never do - that's the point.

The good ol' boys in Indiana are more than happy to sell a gun to a gang banger from Chicago for three times what he paid for it.

We had nearly 4 dozen shootings this weekend in Chicago.  You think all these idiots went to a show and billy bob sent in his forms?  Hell no.

The availability is the problem.  Too many guns are available to these thugs - and no local "gun safe zone" or local laws are going to stop them.

Every single gun should be registered - no exceptions.
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Reply #193 - 08/12/19 at 05:41:45
 
The availability is the problem.  Too many guns are available to these thugs - and no local "gun safe zone" or local laws are going to stop them.

Every single gun should be registered - no exceptions.


Why? How?
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Reply #194 - 08/12/19 at 05:58:22
 
WebsterMark wrote on 08/12/19 at 05:41:45:
The availability is the problem.  Too many guns are available to these thugs - and no local "gun safe zone" or local laws are going to stop them.

Every single gun should be registered - no exceptions.


Why? How?


Well, they're already "supposed" to be registered, and the "why" is obvious - billy bob won't sell a gun registered to him to some gang banger.  But currently, that system is flawed.

The "how" is the flaw.  It's obviously easy to file the serial off a gun.  But it's pretty safe to assume that there are other ways to "fingerprint" a gun.

Every week, in Chicago alone, there are dozens of guns recovered from arrests and raids.  If those guns, with their serial numbers ground off, could still be traced back to the person that initially purchased it - that would deter illegal sales.
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