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Let's face it some people are better than the rest
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Reply #1 - 07/13/19 at 08:02:53
 
Nice,.. all our vets deserve the best treatment.



...but, you know me,... all people deserve the best treatment.
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Reply #2 - 07/13/19 at 09:44:01
 
Even IF they have exactly No Right to even BE in America..
But if you went home and discovered someone in your house
You'd dial 911 and have them hauled off.

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Reply #3 - 07/13/19 at 11:45:18
 
Does that even really make any sense?...
Someone entering a country, vs someone breaking into my house?.

It's like someone's on the internet,... so they must be hacking my computer.

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Reply #4 - 07/13/19 at 12:21:26
 
Serowbot wrote on 07/13/19 at 08:02:53:
Nice,.. all our vets deserve the best treatment.



...but, you know me,... all people deserve the best treatment.


Oh really....except Trump, his cabinet, FOX news folk, etc.....

But HEY they deserve it, I mean, you yourself has judged them worthy of that scorn.

However its odd..... when other judged those of your beliefs, you assign to them as intolerant, opinionated, closed minded....etc, etc, etc....

And you wonder why your world is coming down because of Trump.....mercy.

Perhaps Vanna might sell you a clue.......  Undecided
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Reply #5 - 07/13/19 at 23:38:01
 
Serowbot wrote on 07/13/19 at 11:45:18:
Does that even really make any sense?...
Someone entering a country, vs someone breaking into my house?.

It's like someone's on the internet,... so they must be hacking my computer.



Both situation are similar.
One impacts you, directly.
The other impacts us all, indirectly.
It's a good analogy
You don't see how it works
So you don't have a problem with our NATION being illegally entered
But you don't want strangers in YOUR house.
You really don't see how those things are similar?

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Reply #6 - 07/13/19 at 23:40:11
 
someone's on the internet,... so they must be hacking my computer.


No, that is not similar.
That's a
Did you bring your lunch or did you ride a bicycle
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Reply #7 - 07/14/19 at 04:58:20
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/13/19 at 23:38:01:
Serowbot wrote on 07/13/19 at 11:45:18:
Does that even really make any sense?...
Someone entering a country, vs someone breaking into my house?.

It's like someone's on the internet,... so they must be hacking my computer.



Both situation are similar.
One impacts you, directly.
The other impacts us all, indirectly.
It's a good analogy
You don't see how it works
So you don't have a problem with our NATION being illegally entered
But you don't want strangers in YOUR house.
You really don't see how those things are similar?



Jog's 100% spot on. Its a perfect analogy. Illegal immigrants are breaking, entering and stealing.

Actually the question for Sew or any other liberal whose house sits on a large piece of property is if someone pitched a tent on your land but perhaps not right next to ypur house, would you be okay with that? What if then they had a couple others join them? What if they tapped into your power line for a little electricity? What if your teenager was gonna get a summer job at the gas station but didn't get it cause the owner hired your uninvited guest for a much lower wage? What if later you had to scale back on something you wanted or needed because you had to pay a higher electrical bill? What if this happened to a few others who live around you?

What if one of them shot your neighbors daughter while they were enjoying an afternoon walk on a San Fran pier and her last words were "Daddy..."? What if one of them raped your other neighbors college golfer while she was at school and dumped her body in a lake? What if another who had killed three others across the state, broke into your neighbor's garage looking to steal a bike or something and beat your neighbor to death after he told his wife not to worry, he'd go check out the noise they heard while sleeping. (Which actually happened not to far from me)

See, all those things happend. Its just they didn't happen to you or anyone you know. Kate Steinle, Mollie Tibbits and Randy Nordman were real people, not statistics. The Democratic Party's quest for votes and power through de facto open borders has consequences. If any of you knew these people for real, you'd look at this the way Jog and I do.
Breaking and entering.
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Reply #8 - 07/14/19 at 07:25:57
 
Web....you must keep in mind, not understand the how or why folk think such utter nonsensical uttering like Trump saying he is going to enlist Russia's helping to find Hillary's lost emails shows he was in cahoots with Russia to steal the election......

TOTALLY ignoring the fact it was Trump who raised the perspective to begin with....only to be told by Obama it wasn't possible, etc, and asked by Hillary if he would accept the outcome of the election vote.......

Web....you can't reason with folk who don't have the capacity to be honest intellectually.....

You just can't help folk who don't want to be helped, be it a druggie, boozer, or a TDS'er....

Ya just gotta let them go....period.
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Reply #9 - 07/14/19 at 09:29:56
 
There is a Constitutional right to seek asylum,... there is no Constitutional right to break into my house.

The OP here was, Ross Perot was a nice guy,... I chimed in to agree.

You all have a nice day too...
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Reply #10 - 07/14/19 at 12:07:37
 
There is a Constitutional right to seek asylum,....

Or......is there federal law and procedures in place but a stretch to say its a Constitutional right?
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Reply #11 - 07/14/19 at 13:39:48
 
WebsterMark wrote on 07/14/19 at 12:07:37:
There is a Constitutional right to seek asylum,....

Or......is there federal law and procedures in place but a stretch to say its a Constitutional right?

Maybe so... but the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, includes the due process clause that I believe applies to everyone in the U.S., including people seeking asylum once they arrive.

I'm sure Trump will challenge this in the courts, but he's been losing quite bit lately.

We've traditionally given asylum to those under persecution as do most civilized countries.
We've been a global leader in it.  
Do we want remain a leader in freedoms and human rights, or devolve into an abuser of humanity?

The left isn't saying open the floodgates,.. just let's give these people their day in court that they are due, without making the process intentionally torturous.
Basic human rights

You know,... we're paying between $300 and $700 a day per refugee to keep them in these squalid conditions,... why not try to process them quicker?...  Send the one's that don't qualify back.
This is stupid. Wasteful. Cruel.  
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Reply #12 - 07/14/19 at 14:16:46
 
 I know it's hard to accept for some but a large part of the problem was implementation of policy without staff, resources or funding.  Admitting Tump's policies are not implemented well would start fixing that, but since his perception is that he is rarely if ever wrong there's not a lot that can be done.

 Nobody wants warehouses of immigrants sitting around, unfortunately policy has created that situation.  
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Reply #13 - 07/14/19 at 14:30:35
 
I think Trump does want warehouses of immigrants.

It's a great promotion for his racist political agenda.
Feed the base for the election.
MAGA heads love this.
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Reply #14 - 07/15/19 at 05:18:45
 
Far more likely Nancy and Chuck are pushing for open borders so when they spring the "anybody living in the US can vote" plan (before 2020) and figure out a way to do a popular vote election, they'll have their only way to beat Trump.
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