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Re: Act 447: Should Poland pay Holocaust compensat
Reply #15 - 05/29/19 at 14:45:06
 
philthymike wrote on 05/28/19 at 19:32:58:
Now Poles are being attacked by Twitter.
https://stopacts447.org/a-massive-attack-on-twitter-accounts-of-polish-diaspo...

Because the people of Poland haven’t been attacked enough...



No one had it worse than the Poles in the western world during the 20th century, and no one gives a darn now.

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Re: Act 447: Should Poland pay Holocaust compensat
Reply #16 - 05/29/19 at 17:02:17
 
pg wrote on 05/29/19 at 14:45:06:
philthymike wrote on 05/28/19 at 19:32:58:
Now Poles are being attacked by Twitter.
https://stopacts447.org/a-massive-attack-on-twitter-accounts-of-polish-diaspo...

Because the people of Poland haven’t been attacked enough...



No one had it worse than the Poles in the western world during the 20th century, and no one gives a darn now.

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Seriously?  Tell that to the Irish or the Native Americans.
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Reply #17 - 05/29/19 at 17:17:38
 
T And T Garage wrote on 05/29/19 at 17:02:17:
pg wrote on 05/29/19 at 14:45:06:
philthymike wrote on 05/28/19 at 19:32:58:
Now Poles are being attacked by Twitter.
https://stopacts447.org/a-massive-attack-on-twitter-accounts-of-polish-diaspo...

Because the people of Poland haven’t been attacked enough...



No one had it worse than the Poles in the western world during the 20th century, and no one gives a darn now.

Best regards,


Seriously?  Tell that to the Irish or the Native Americans.



The atrocities committed to Native Americans occurred prior to 20th century.  Poland was occupied by Prussia (Germany) till WWI.  They had their freedom till WWII.  Hitler established the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost.  The plan was to exterminate around 85% (over 20 million) of ethnically Polish citizens of Poland, with the remaining 15% to be used as slaves.  Poland lost 1of4 or 1of5 of citizens in WWII.  After the war they were occupied by the Soviet Union for 45 years where the atrocities continued.  Further, the Poles who escaped and came to America were the target of poor humor for decades.  The Ukranians also suffered a similar fate.


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Reply #18 - 05/29/19 at 17:28:08
 
T And T Garage wrote on 05/29/19 at 17:02:17:
Seriously?  Tell that to the Irish or the Native Americans.


See if you can figure this one out.

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Reply #19 - 05/29/19 at 17:30:24
 
pg wrote on 05/29/19 at 17:28:08:
T And T Garage wrote on 05/29/19 at 17:02:17:
Seriously?  Tell that to the Irish or the Native Americans.


See if you can figure this one out.

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Nope.  What does it mean?
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Reply #20 - 05/29/19 at 17:34:27
 
I can speak a dialect of a Native American tribe.  Yes I'm bilingual and I have great understanding of their history.  How about that....

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Reply #21 - 05/29/19 at 17:38:05
 
pg wrote on 05/29/19 at 17:34:27:
I can speak a dialect of a Native American tribe.  Yes I'm bilingual and I have great understanding of their history.  How about that....

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Gee, that's cool!

If you know that, then you should know some of what happened to the Native Americans in the late 19th and early 20th century, don't you?  Further, during that same time, Irish immigrants to the US were considered sub-human.

I have a great understanding of history.  How about that?

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Reply #22 - 05/29/19 at 17:48:21
 
T And T Garage wrote on 05/29/19 at 17:38:05:
pg wrote on 05/29/19 at 17:34:27:
I can speak a dialect of a Native American tribe.  Yes I'm bilingual and I have great understanding of their history.  How about that....

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Gee, that's cool!

If you know that, then you should know some of what happened to the Native Americans in the early 20th century, don't you?  Further, during that same time, Irish immigrants to the US were considered sub-human.

I have a great understanding of history.  How about that?




Back to the thread topic, do you believe any group had it worse than Poland in the 20th century?  Please refer to my post of what they endured.  


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Reply #23 - 05/29/19 at 17:50:44
 
pg wrote on 05/29/19 at 17:48:21:
T And T Garage wrote on 05/29/19 at 17:38:05:
pg wrote on 05/29/19 at 17:34:27:
I can speak a dialect of a Native American tribe.  Yes I'm bilingual and I have great understanding of their history.  How about that....

Best regards,


Gee, that's cool!

If you know that, then you should know some of what happened to the Native Americans in the early 20th century, don't you?  Further, during that same time, Irish immigrants to the US were considered sub-human.

I have a great understanding of history.  How about that?




Back to the thread topic, do you believe any group had it worse than Poland in the 20th century?  Please refer to my post of what they endured.  


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Looking at the post again, I'll concede.  Poles had it bad in the 20th century.  I can see now that my frame of reference was only in the late 19th century and in the Americas.
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Reply #24 - 05/30/19 at 08:43:23
 
WebsterMark wrote on 05/27/19 at 04:59:10:
Has there ever been a situation where reparations were paid and there was a provable study showing the cash healed the old wounds?


I'll ask again, does anyone know of a situation where reparations made an overall positive impact on relations between two or more parties where one of those parties had been wronged in the past?
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Reply #25 - 05/30/19 at 12:27:51
 
I'll ask again too. Should Poland be forced to pay reparation for the survivors of the holocaust they suffered through alongside the Jews?

Especially considering Polish citizens were the only ones actually fighting against the Nazi's instead of rolling over like so many other occupied countries did.
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Reply #26 - 05/30/19 at 14:33:52
 
Hell no.
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Reply #27 - 05/31/19 at 05:39:48
 

"Back to the thread topic, do you believe any group had it worse than Poland in the 20th century?"

 Depends on if we want to talk total numbers, or percentages of loss.

 Poland lost about 18-20% of it's population in WWII unless I am mistaken.

 About half of all Armenians died during the Ottoman Empire genocides in Turkey alone.

 100% of Cambodian Viets died in Cambodia, half of Chinese Cham during Pol Pot and that's a portion of total murders.

 Rwanda genocide 70% of Tutsis killed.

 40% of Congo's Pygmy killed.  I've seen this first hand.

 Myanmar, right now has murdered over 40,000 Rohingya, I don't know the percentage.  

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Re: Act 447: Should Poland pay Holocaust compensat
Reply #28 - 05/31/19 at 13:32:33
 
WebsterMark wrote on 05/30/19 at 14:33:52:
Hell no.


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Re: Act 447: Should Poland pay Holocaust compensat
Reply #29 - 05/31/19 at 14:01:57
 
Eegore wrote on 05/31/19 at 05:39:48:
"Back to the thread topic, do you believe any group had it worse than Poland in the 20th century?"

 Depends on if we want to talk total numbers, or percentages of loss.

 Poland lost about 18-20% of it's population in WWII unless I am mistaken.

 About half of all Armenians died during the Ottoman Empire genocides in Turkey alone.

 100% of Cambodian Viets died in Cambodia, half of Chinese Cham during Pol Pot and that's a portion of total murders.

 Rwanda genocide 70% of Tutsis killed.

 40% of Congo's Pygmy killed.  I've seen this first hand.

 Myanmar, right now has murdered over 40,000 Rohingya, I don't know the percentage.  

 


Given that understanding, that doesn't erase the wrong done to the Polish. Even making the statement that
Nobody had it worse than the Polish
Statistically incorrect, which your post appears to have done, doesn't diminish the horrors visited on the Polish. Mankind is able to visit atrocities on others with enthusiasm and efficiency.
Sometimes they are even able to convince certain people it's an act of
Humanitarian Intervention...
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