I wanted to check out the FTR and the Scout. The FTR was not yet available for demo rides but they did have a couple in stock at the dealership. Nice looking bikes but the seat height has got to be 31+ inches.

I rode a Scout 60 specially set up for short riders like myself (5'7") and though it was not a perfect fit, it was good enough and riding that bike was a blast. 78 hp on a 550 lbs bike felt amazing. The bike handles very well and the acceleration is unreal (specially if your daily ride is a savage with standard engine and tall gearing).

I also rode the Scout 66 which has 100 hp and 6 gears. You can tell the difference, but 78 hp is plenty.

I also rode the Chieftain Dark Horse with the bored out engine (116 cubic inches). Beautiful bike, but 800 lbs or so. First time I ever ride something that heavy. I did not expect to like it, but it was absolutely awesome. It was very comfortable, the sound was incredible and the weight balance was just right. I absolutely fell in love with this bike. Except for the price which was around $28K. Also, I will admit that after the ride as I was trying to park it just right and was backing it up, I almost dropped. I think it took just  about all my strength to keep from dropping it once I let it lean just a bit too much. All in all though, I had a great day. I may even go back tomorrow for a few more rides.

I just can't tell you how upsetting it would be to me to discover a motorcycle called
Caucasian.

So ,

If a company named a bike after me  ...

would anybody buy a bike called  " average white guy " ?

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 04/13/19 at 01:56:51:



It is beginning to come into focus ! 😁

Springman ,     78 hp on a 550 lbs bike  

That sounds like the Harley 1200 Sportster , apparently Indian has taken AIM at the competition !  

So , Is the Indian Belt Drive  ?    

and

ruffly the same $$$ ?

Everybody needs a " WE BIKE " ,    and  a   " ME BIKE "  .  

Back in the 70's I was a fan of the "Average White Band".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g45Ljqgijiw




The attraction of bigger/faster/heavier/comfy bikes is always around - and although we love the simplicity, lightness and charm of the Savage.......it is easy to love what other bikes have to offer.  You can find really good deals on the V-twin cruisers from Honda, Suzuki and Yamaha - but they don't provide much cornering ability or horsepower - just better comfort and cruising power.  The Scout is a nice mid sized bike and a good step up from the Savage - I have never ridden one but the engine is supposed to be very nice. Big heavy touring bikes are popular for a reason - all that bulk helps provide a very smooth ride on the highway....they are very challenging when you are stopped and have to figure out how to handle 800 pounds of tippyness.

Raydawg, all I can say is you're too much. You crack me up.  

I do not know what the HD sportster is like, but I can tell you that both the Scout 60 (78 hp) and the 66 (100 hp) ride really well. I did not feel like I was going from a light bike to a heavy bike. I guess because the Scout has a low seat and is balanced very well, for the most part I just felt like I was on a faster bike that was hardly working up a sweat at 70 mph.

The Scout is belt drive, EFI, tubeless tire and liquid cooled. It is in the $10-12K range. A bit much for me.

Dave got it right though. I love my S40 as a very inexpensive all around bike. But on cold mornings I sure start wishing I had EFI and when I'm on a rough road, I sure wish my suspension were a bit more forgiving. And when I am merging onto the highway, I sure wish I had a bit more get up and go. I guess my big problem is I am not willing to put out a bunch of cash (certainly not $10K) for a motorcycle and then have to pay even more for maintenance.

Depending on the center of gravity , 500 lbs is my max ! Anything heavier than that and I would be a gold wing owner. Too heavy a bike usually leads to some super embarrassing slow speed crashes. Be sure to post the video