I don't know, what's the difference?

it's not communism you need to fear, it's authoritarianism...  but you'll never figure that out

verslagen1 wrote on 04/10/19 at 09:53:58:


often....  


and to be clear, I don't agree with everything that's in the Green New Deal, and it's not official party platform either, so to say every democrat wants it is totally disingenuous but that's the best word ever to describe the republicans and most conservatives anyway

I highly doubt that these bullet points are accurate, as the gatewaypundit is a slanderous website, but...


*The Green New Deal that would (in their words) “completely transform the American economy, put the federal government in control over large sectors, retrofit every building in America…and constitute by far the greatest centralization of power in American history.”' giving absolutely no details on this so....  I'm dismissing this whole point as fear mongering idiocy




*Make all college free the price of college needs addressed, Free, idk, let's just get the cost of education back in line with real life, but I can see a time when at least junior colleges are free since that'll be what's required of the workforce



*Make all healthcare free free? no, I'll pay taxes for that, I'm okay with that, I'm no okay with corporations ripping us off and holding our very lives hostage to make a buck, healthcare is a right, your right to live is a right. and as such the government (we the people) should be able to determine what acceptable care is


*Increase taxes to 70% . idk, I think we can just cut the military and pay for most of this stuff that way, I have no desire to tax anyone more, but to keep us out of getting into more debt, so it'd just be a matter of looking at taxes and what we need to pay and adjusting to make it balanced


*Abolish ICE, protect sanctuary cities and take down all existing walls on the Southern border.
yup, open borders, give everyone a coming here a tax ID number, no more "illegal labor" and punish those that pay illegal wages, imagine having 12 million or more new tax payers overnight....


*Eliminate the Senate filibuster, pack the Supreme Court with extra judges, end the electoral college.  The filibuster is broken, but, that's more of a gerrymandering issue, fix that, get more realistic representation instead of so much of the extremes and that'll fix that,  and while I think there are too many old white people on the Supreme court.... and sometimes the electoral college short circuits democracy...   Let's leave these constitutional structures alone




*Reparations for black Americans. This actually makes The Green New Deal sound sane. I heard a way of doing reparations that might be interesting, just exclude them from taxes.. idk, we do owe ancestors of slaves and black people in general something for our centuries of building our nation on their backs , so that'd be something I'd be interested in hearing about, but it'd be very complicated process, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be done though



*Allow abortions up until the baby’s moment of birth, or even after birth.
I'm going to go ahead and assume this is just a lie.  


*Opposition and in many cases, outright hatred towards Israel, America’s longtime best friend.
Israel isn't perfect and they are still doing illegal things according to international law that WE signed up for.... so your best friend breaks the law, you're okay with that?

Eegore wrote on 04/10/19 at 16:05:35:


excellent point

LostArtist wrote on 04/10/19 at 09:46:55:



If you have noticed I often use the term collectivism.

Best regards,

Eegore wrote on 04/10/19 at 16:05:35:



Such as.....

Best regards,

pg wrote on 04/10/19 at 18:22:53:



I'm just going to ignore you from now on, you obviously have major reading comprehension problems.