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Reply #30 - 12/14/18 at 14:00:15
 
An American citizen was one of the parents of those children.
That's a big, BIG difference between an anchor baby, which is a descriptive term lefties are butthurt over, which doesn't make it offensive. It's ACCURATE, and lefties DESPISE language that is honest.
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Reply #31 - 12/14/18 at 15:46:46
 
"DESPISE language that is honest. "

 Non-Citizen Mother.

 A baby from a Non-Citizen Mother.

 If a legal US Citizen male has a child with a Non-Citizen Mother what part of Non-Citizen Mother doesn't apply to the term?
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Reply #32 - 12/14/18 at 17:51:51
 
The point, as I understand it, is TT was trying to equate an anchor baby with the offspring of a legal, American citizen who MARRIED a foreigner who had a child. That's a citizen, not an anchor baby.
Does that really not work in the minds of lefties?A.m. I really going to need to explain it further?
Do you people really not understand how different it is when
One of the PARENTS is an American citizen?
Do you really not see how different that is from a pregnant illegal alien slipping in and dropping a baby?
Ohhh, please, every lefty, DO answer those questions.
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Reply #33 - 12/14/18 at 20:06:03
 
"That's a citizen, not an anchor baby."

 An anchor baby is defined in this thread as a child of a Non-Citizen Mother.  If we were using language that is honest we wouldn't try to alter that definition.

 Mother.  Non-citizen Mother, not "Parents".  Mother.

 Want to explain how if a US citizen Male marries a Non-Citizen Mother, a female biological parent, of a child born in the US is not by definition an anchor baby?

 What part of a married Non-Citizen Mother married to a US citizen Father does not match the anchor baby definition?

"Do you really not see how different that is from a pregnant illegal alien slipping in and dropping a baby?"

 It is different, but since I am using honest language I am going to use the definition and not try to change it to suit my scenario.  There is a difference between two illegal alien parents having a child in the US, but only the mother is needed to define anchor baby.  So to me the issue isn't if Trump had an anchor baby, but if one or two biological Illegal Alien parents having a child in the US should be entitled to having that child considered a US citizen.
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Reply #34 - 12/14/18 at 20:39:33
 
Read the constitution.
It's obvious.
No.
Born in America to someone who is here illegally is a no.
Marriage to a citizen opens the door legally.
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Reply #35 - 12/14/18 at 21:14:18
 

 I agree except for the part where you say that a baby born to a Non-Citizen Mother yet has a US citizen father is not an anchor baby.

 If we were to use honest language we would not deny that a US citizen father of a child from a Non-Citizen Mother is an anchor baby.

 What part of a situation where a US Citizen Father has a child born in the US to a Non-Citizen Mother does not fit into the described definition of "Non-Citizen Mother"?
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Reply #36 - 12/14/18 at 21:55:10
 
What is the reason for the name
ANCHOR baby?
It is what is used to allow the mother to stay.
It's HER anchor.
Marry a citizen and you don't NEED a baby to stay.
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Reply #37 - 12/14/18 at 22:03:14
 

 I agree.

 However, what part of the definition "Non Citizen Mother" makes a situation where a US Citizen father marries a Non Citizen, then she has a baby prior to citizenship means that the baby does not fit the definition of anchor baby?

 From an honest language perspective that is.

 If using honest language and that language says "Non-Citizen Mother" why would one say that a Non-Citizen mother married to a US Citizen Father can not have an anchor baby?

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Reply #38 - 12/14/18 at 22:17:53
 
Good GOD man.
Really?
You can't be that Frikken STUPID.
You don't
NEED
a baby
In ORDER to be ABLE TO STAY in America
IF you're Married to a CITIZEN.
An illegal, who hasn't Had a baby
Can be deported
She can get herself an
Anchor Husband
Or
Have a baby
Which would be the
ANCHOR that protects her from deportation.

If it's NOT an ANCHOR, used for a shield against deportation, it's NOT, by definition
An ANCHOR baby.

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Reply #39 - 12/14/18 at 22:31:51
 
 I didn't say you NEED a baby.

 The content of the conversation is about people who have babies in the US.  If that baby has a Non-Citizen Mother, that baby by definition is an anchor baby.

 If that same Non-Citizen Mother is married to a US Citizen father, she has also an anchor husband.  

 Non-Citizen Mother now has both an anchor baby, and anchor husband but only if constitutionally the citizenship is guaranteed by marriage.  But it isn't.

 What part of a Non-Citizen Mother, marrying a US Citizen father and having a baby on US soil removes that baby from the definition of "Non-Citizen Mother?

 Lets make it simple: does that baby have a Non-Citizen Mother?  

 Yes or No?
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Reply #40 - 12/14/18 at 23:06:29
 
I'm not gonna screw with this anymore.
You don't call something an anchor IF you don't NEED it to BE an anchor.
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Reply #41 - 12/15/18 at 00:08:11
 
"You don't call something an anchor IF you don't NEED it to BE an anchor. "

 I agree.  I am just using honest language here.

 "Non-Citizen mother" is hard to define any other way.
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Reply #42 - 12/15/18 at 00:51:59
 
A non citizen who is married doesn't HAVE an ANCHOR baby.
She's a non citizen, married to a citizen, and in no legal Need of an ANCHOR baby.

So
No
A non citizen, married To a citizen
Can't, by definition, HAVE an
Anchor baby.
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Reply #43 - 12/15/18 at 07:31:36
 
 So the definition is wrong.

 The honest language needs to be revised.  An Anchor baby is a baby of a Non-Citizen mother that is not married to a US Citizen Father at the time of the child's birth.  

 Even if marriage doesn't guarantee citizenship?

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Reply #44 - 12/15/18 at 09:57:24
 
FFS, dude, the next time you decide to do a mind meld, DON'T do it with TT.

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