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Re: 14
Reply #15 - 11/02/18 at 13:15:45

LostArtist wrote on 11/02/18 at 12:57:56:

THEY ARE UNDER OUR JURISDICTION AND THEY ARE BORN HERE THEY ARE CITIZENS!! plain and simple language, and PROVEN THROUGH A CENTURY OF COURT CASES....
I'll buy you a beer to cry in....

Question: are they under our jurisdiction if they crossed the border illegally?
If they submit to our jurisdiction, wouldn't they be arrested?

If an illegal steps over the border and squirts out a baby, does she make a noise?

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: 14 Reply #16 - 11/02/18 at 14:38:00 LostArtist wrote on 11/02/18 at 13:15:11: justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/02/18 at 13:04:04: Yeah, they belong to America as much as a stranger dropping a baby in your living room belongs to you. oh, and btw THAT BABY WOULD BE UNDER MY JURISDICTION! No it would not. You have exactly ZERO right and authority over the kid.
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Re: 14
Reply #17 - 11/02/18 at 14:51:21

T And T Garage wrote on 11/02/18 at 11:48:04:

"No one at the time it was written, took the 14th to mean what it does today."

Yea, that is correct !
(First time in a long time you got things, ‘right’)

“No one at the time it was written, took the 2nd to mean what it does today”
Yet, ya don’t get this.
The 2nd, does mean today, what it meant 242 years ago.

(The way you rail against Trump, and all the total B.S. you throw.
One would think, you, of all people, would want a means of protection from the government)

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .

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Re: 14
Reply #18 - 11/02/18 at 15:35:22

verslagen1 wrote on 11/02/18 at 13:15:45:

LostArtist wrote on 11/02/18 at 12:57:56:

THEY ARE UNDER OUR JURISDICTION AND THEY ARE BORN HERE THEY ARE CITIZENS!! plain and simple language, and PROVEN THROUGH A CENTURY OF COURT CASES....
I'll buy you a beer to cry in....

Question: are they under our jurisdiction if they crossed the border illegally?
If they submit to our jurisdiction, wouldn't they be arrested?

If an illegal steps over the border and squirts out a baby, does she make a noise?

ONLY if you hear the tree fall Cheesy

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: 14 Reply #19 - 11/02/18 at 15:38:33 The fourteenth amendment didn't even make Indian children citizens, but lefties believe it was meant to make ILLEGAL ALIEN children citizens. It's STEWPID..
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Re: 14
Reply #20 - 11/02/18 at 16:32:18

MnSpring wrote on 11/02/18 at 14:51:21:

T And T Garage wrote on 11/02/18 at 11:48:04:

"No one at the time it was written, took the 14th to mean what it does today."

Yea, that is correct !
(First time in a long time you got things, ‘right’)

“No one at the time it was written, took the 2nd to mean what it does today”
Yet, ya don’t get this.
The 2nd, does mean today, what it meant 242 years ago.

(The way you rail against Trump, and all the total B.S. you throw.
One would think, you, of all people, would want a means of protection from the government)

LOL - yeah, ya got nothin' mn.

You're saying that the Second Amendment was somehow written with clairvoyance? (now, that's a big word you might have to look up...)

The Fourteenth is somehow the only one open to interpretation?

Please.... too easy to turn you on your ear.

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Re: 14
Reply #21 - 11/02/18 at 19:36:04

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/02/18 at 15:38:33:

The fourteenth amendment didn't even make Indian children citizens, but lefties believe it was meant to make ILLEGAL ALIEN children citizens.
It's STEWPID..

that's because at the time, Native Americans were on their OWN territory in their OWN nation some of which we even had peace treaties with, meaning we recognized their sovereignty.

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Re: 14
Reply #22 - 11/02/18 at 19:37:04

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/02/18 at 14:38:00:

LostArtist wrote on 11/02/18 at 13:15:11:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/02/18 at 13:04:04:

Yeah, they belong to America as much as a stranger dropping a baby in your living room belongs to you.

oh, and btw THAT BABY WOULD BE UNDER MY JURISDICTION!

No it would not.
You have exactly ZERO right and authority over the kid.

My house, my rules

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: 14 Reply #23 - 11/02/18 at 23:07:57 So the mother has no rights to decide the best future for her child, because it demanded to be born while she was in your house?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: 14 Reply #24 - 11/03/18 at 21:52:00 This explains it so anyone can get it. https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/11/birthright-citizenship-14th-amendment-...
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