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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: Venezuela Reply #15 - 08/14/18 at 20:41:35 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/14/18 at 19:04:26: Yeah, TT goes quiet.. Amazing.. jog - some of us have lives outside this little forum. You should look into that. (as well as finding out what democratic socialism is)
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Venezuela Reply #16 - 08/14/18 at 20:49:31 I looked it up. Don't understand exactly. What is your answer? It sounds like A population votes for what it wants. Then something magical happens Other people PAY for it.
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Reply #17 - 08/15/18 at 06:20:29

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/14/18 at 20:49:31:

I looked it up.
Don't understand exactly.
What is your answer?
It sounds like
A population votes for what it wants.
Then something magical happens
Other people PAY for it.

Well then I see you really don't understand it then.

Look around you jog. We are currently living in a democratic socialist country.

Conservatives for some reason refuse to believe that and are pushing us into an oligarchy. Our president's administration just gave a ton of welfare to the top 1% and corporations. That is pure capitalism and that's what's killing the middle class.

When you have to worry about going bankrupt when you get sick or get in an accident, something's wrong.

When you spend billions on tax breaks for the rich while our roads and bridges crumble, something's wrong.

When there are hundreds of thousands homeless in this country (and far too many veterans), something is wrong.

When we've paid into our social security and somehow it's not going to be there for us (yeah, I know, the democrats raided it just as much as the republicans), something's wrong.

That's the tip of the iceberg jog.

If you're really interested, which I highly doubt, simply go look at the justice democrat's site. It's spelled out fairly simply.

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Reply #18 - 08/15/18 at 09:47:14

I looked
That's not viable.
Why would I take lessons from Bamicare believers?
You can't guarantee JOBS.
You can only develop policies that are conducive to people taking the risk of starting a business.
Eliminate ICE?
You don't understand what happens when there are fifty people waiting for you to quit your job?
You EXPECT employers to pay good wages, right?
Well.
Onceafukkinggain,
Labor is a COMMODITY.
When the labor market is full of unemployed people, employers don't have to appreciate you.
When unemployed people are few, employers must value their employees.
Guess what THAT means.
You can have your dreams
But you will not change
Human nature.

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Reply #19 - 08/15/18 at 10:11:38

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/15/18 at 09:47:14:

I looked
That's not viable.
Why would I take lessons from Bamicare believers?

Your loss.

You can't guarantee JOBS.

No one can.

You can only develop policies that are conducive to people taking the risk of starting a business.

Yeah, that tax break did what again? Oh yea, helped out the largest corporations and the 1%.

Eliminate ICE?

It's broken, it's draconian, fix it.

You don't understand what happens when there are fifty people waiting for you to quit your job?

Not sure what that means... however, under our current system, those jobs are paying less and less.

You EXPECT employers to pay good wages, right?

See above - they have been stagnant for far too long under our current corporatization of America.

Well.
Onceafukkinggain,
Labor is a COMMODITY.
When the labor market is full of unemployed people, employers don't have to appreciate you.
When unemployed people are few, employers must value their employees.

And still, wages are WAY behind where they should be.
Why do you think that is?

Guess what THAT means.
You can have your dreams
But you will not change
Human nature.

Well jog - looks like corporate america has you by the short hairs and you're taking a walk with them.

Good luck with that.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Venezuela Reply #20 - 08/15/18 at 10:37:18 It's not Corporate America. It's the economic system that has been the Only Sustainable economic system in the history of the world, but you and your lefty friends can pretend you have a better answer.
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Reply #21 - 08/15/18 at 11:52:25

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/15/18 at 10:37:18:

It's not
Corporate America.
It's the economic system that has been the
Only Sustainable economic system in the history of the world, but you and your lefty friends can pretend you have a better answer.

We do have a better answer. In our "crazy" world, you don't have to declare bankruptcy if you get in an accident or have a disease - you don't let corporations determine the outcome of elections with their "free speech" donations of dark money - the tax breaks and the incentives to buy more goods and services fall to the middle class... I could go on and on, but it's fruitless.

And think about this - Bernie Sander's "crazy" idea about Medicare For All would actually lower the government's bill - Total national health spending would be $2 trillion lower from 2022 to 2031 under the plan

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Venezuela Reply #22 - 08/15/18 at 14:35:35 I'm not able to envision it.
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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: Venezuela Reply #23 - 08/15/18 at 14:55:24 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/15/18 at 14:35:35: I'm not able to envision it. Well - therein lies the problem with most conservatives.
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MnSpring Serious Thumper Online Younger than most people my age. Posts: 9347 Minn Gender:	Re: Venezuela Reply #24 - 08/16/18 at 15:21:28 T And T Garage wrote on 08/15/18 at 14:55:24: Well - therein lies the problem with most conservatives. See post #2 here: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1534452280 And the List goes on !
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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: Venezuela Reply #25 - 08/16/18 at 15:31:30 MnSpring wrote on 08/16/18 at 15:21:28: T And T Garage wrote on 08/15/18 at 14:55:24: Well - therein lies the problem with most conservatives. See post #2 here: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1534452280 And the List goes on ! Well mn, technically it's response #2 and I answered it accordingly.
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