Unfortunately, those gun toting right wing Trumpeteers don't care about discussion or accuracy.  As the great orange one said, it's like we are on a crusade.  Rosanne Barr has once again pointed to the crusade's goals; that's why she is so popular.

The USA has always been a bit self righteous....I mean really, if you think about it, Capitalism's great strength is that it taps into a major human force, greed.  Trump is simply the idealized self centered greed machine.  

The Trump style Americans want America first, not simply the best among many.  This is why they hate the UN., NAFTA and any instrument of sharing power and decision making.  The headset hasn't changed since the 50's when we were told, "What's good for General Motors is good for America."  The fact that they were making crappy unreliable and unsafe vehicles didn't matter.  

Sorry but I don't think discussion is the goal, just chanting the latest twit.

Unfortunately, those gun toting right wing Trumpeteers don't care about discussion or accuracy.
When the response to
People who have guns are stopping the bad guys is
That's not statistically important
Instead of
Gee, maybe having CC guns in the mix is a good thing...
But it's the people who promote
Freedom
Individual responsibility
And support the ideals of the constitution

And we are the bad guys.
If you're not willing to admit that the good guy with a gun is reasonable, then expect to be treated as an unreasonable person.
It's evident based on facts available.
Deal with it