The baker discriminated against a protected class of person and he got what he deserved for it.  That's the law, and yes, it's being/or has been in the courts and figured out that way, idk, I don't care, obviously.  

but it is a valid question, which is more important, someone's personal "religious" belief ( I put religious belief in quotes because quite frankly, there's nothing in the bible that would stop a Christian from providing for a sinner of any kind, Jesus SERVED prostitutes, tax collectors and all kinds of sinners in his time, I think His example is clear, but somehow some "fundamentalists" just can't love apparently)

anyway, the right of someone to be treated EQUALLY under the law, or the right of someone to exercise their personal "religious" belief.  that's what's the debate is about,

I'm not in favor of religion dictating law so I tend to favor the everyone being treated equally side, but I understand how someone could feel that this is a slippery slope forcing someone to go against their beliefs.

I just see the bakery as a business, and businesses, well, in my opinion, can't hold personal religious beliefs, they aren't people.  But with a sole Proprietorship business like I"m assuming the bakery is, those lines do cross and I think this a valid thing for the courts to decide

A Nazi demands a Jewish carpenter to build his swastika.
Yes?

It's about ones
Conscience.

And property rights.
I really wish you understood the libertarian ideas.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/28/18 at 16:13:14:



well, they can quit.  they can turn themselves into a cupcake shop, they can stop offering customized cakes completely. they have options to preserve their conscience and not discriminate.

T And T Garage wrote on 02/28/18 at 15:55:07:

If this baker is allowed to "morally object" - then what's to stop someone from morally objecting to an interracial wedding cake?  Or a non-christian wedding cake?  Or a bar mitzvah cake?  Where do you draw the line?  Discrimination is just  - it knows no bounds.

Well then, by golly gee, got to fin me a  Muslim Shop,
and order a Pork Sandwich !!!
After all, It is  'SAID', it is, 'discrimination', against me,
caus that dare  Musilum, said, he/she don't sell Pork,
caus da, "morally object", on a conta dare relegion.

T And T Garage wrote on 02/28/18 at 15:55:07:

If this baker is allowed to "morally object" - then what's to stop someone from morally objecting to an interracial wedding cake?  Or a non-christian wedding cake?  Or a bar mitzvah cake? Where do you draw the line?  Discrimination is just discrimination - it knows no bounds. Slippery slope indeed.

Another Take.
 Exactly what is  WRONG,
with a baker not, baking a,
"interracial wedding cake?  Or a non-christian wedding cake?  Or a bar mitzvah cake?"

It is the BAKERS   CHOICE.
  NOT YOURS !

It is the same as walking walking into a Gun shop,
for a box of 7.62x55R  ammo.
And being told they do not sell that,
I have to go someplace else.

What, I am to SUE them,
because out of 100 kinds of ammo,
they don't have the one I  want. ????????

What you bat$hit crazy people don't get is they went to someone that doesn't do gay wedding cakes and said I want a gay wedding cake.
Could've just as easily said give me a cake and did what they wanted to do afterwards... put 2 guys on top, whatever it's their cake.
And he did offer them a plain wedding cake.

It's like suing a lesbian prostitute for not servicing you.

verslagen1 wrote on 03/01/18 at 08:22:04:



no, they said we want a wedding cake, we happen to be gay, we'd like the cake to reflect who we are as a couple, like you do for every other couple

does the baker have the right to discriminate, maybe, but I'm glad it's going to court