Dear tRump,... just a reminder... You're President now.
If Obama neglected some action against the Russians, maybe you should be doing it... Like NOW!...

He'll just tweet, point fingers and name call everyone else, and then declare his innocence.

That's the kinda "man" he is.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/21/18 at 11:30:33:



meddling in elections, even though they failed, they DID TRY to hack into voting machines.  

and we use sanctions all the time, Iran, N.Korea, China, etc...   so don't give me that "sanctions are an act of war" crap. You know that's what the Dear Leader in North Korea is saying too right, "sanctions are an act of war"  

who's side are you on?  America or Russia?  

and with the recent indictments by Mueller, they seem perfectly justifiable to me.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/21/18 at 11:56:56:



considering Russia is more of a dictatorship like NK is... I think it's more than appropriate.

and it's not my fault your head is up your own butt

The Russians hacking has been on the news

https://www.npr.org/2017/09/22/552956517/ten-months-after-election-day-feds-t...

"Only two state election security breaches last year have been made public so far. Hackers were able to gain access to the records of tens of thousands of voters in Illinois' centralized registration database, but there is no sign any records were deleted or changed. Russian hackers also gained access to the password and other credentials of a county elections worker in Arizona. Again there is no evidence that records were altered."


https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/22/electronic-voting-state-hacking-russian-gov...

"On Friday, the Department of Homeland Security notified nearly half of the U.S. states that their election systems were targeted by Russia-affiliated hackers in an attempt to influence the 2016 election. In most of the states targeted, the hackers were engaged in preliminary activities like scanning. In other states hackers attempted to infiltrate systems and failed, but in a small selection of states, with only Illinois confirmed so far, the election systems were compromised successfully. According to Homeland Security, none of these attempts were aimed at the systems that actually tabulate the votes themselves."


hey, even Fox covered it:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/07/top-dhs-official-says-russian-hack...

"U.S. intelligence official Jeanette Manfra told NBC News her department saw a small number of states where Moscow was “successfully” able to hack voters systems, despite there being no evidence that registration rolls were altered in anyway."


http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/351981-dhs-notifies-21-states-of-they...

"Illinois and Arizona announced before the election that voter roles connected to the internet had been hacked by Russia."

surprised you missed this:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/09/liberals-come-unglued-new-report-clai...

now you know how to spin it   "whatever that means."

"“It’s really reconnaissance by a bad guy to try and figure out how we would break into your computer,” said Trevor Timmons, a spokesman for the Colorado secretary of state’s office. “It’s not an attack. I wouldn’t call it a probe. It’s not a breach, it’s not a penetration.”

so.. just the tip then it's okay???


man, the Gateway Pundit really is a despicable piece of crap huh?   might as well take everything Mother Jones reports as fact to get some balance in your life

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/21/18 at 12:34:28:



in my opening post I said:
"um, okay, so, could Obama have done more, probably. is it a crime that he didn't, don't see how. but sure, let's see what was known when.  "

so yeah, that's fine, but pretending it's criminal...  I don't buy that

edit:

and it's not that "he" (whoever that is) is quick to slap Trump for suggesting out system is vulnerable, it's that Trump has done NOTHING, to address that vulnerability. not even punishing those we know are at fault.

verslagen1 wrote on 02/21/18 at 14:23:46:


so the confusion here is the word "rig"  and let's address context.

context first, this is not in the context of foreign manipulation. And Trump didn't mean it in the foreign manipulation context. did he?   Trump meant the Democratic party rigging the election through its, interior to this nation, connections and maybe "bussing" in voters, illegal aliens, etc..  to sway the election.  

the word "rig" is very vague and allows people to read into it what they want. so now you get to think that applies here, but it doesn't

verslagen1 wrote on 02/21/18 at 14:23:46:



also, since none of the machines were actually hacked into and none of the tallies were changed or anything,  Obama was right.