1. Election security is so sacrosanct that a foreign country hiring professional Twitter trolls to spew false info is an "act of war."

2. We shouldn't even ask voters for the same ID they need to buy a six pack because there's no evidence of voter fraud.

Pick one.

Hi Web  

I think playing to the lowest form of reasoning of why we can’t, is a false argument, or paper lion.
The number of folks who might be inconvenienced by tightening our elections security is like saying we need high magazine rifles to fight tyranny, a very small consideration in scope of the bigger picture.

I am presently setting up all I need to do for my retirement.
It’s quick, efficient, and secure.
This technology and how to implement it is already known and available to our government, as I have experienced it firsthand.

Of course some will need additional consideration in order to participate, provide that small number a solution instead of doing nothing and blaming your lost on unmitigated factors that might not be proven.

Look, the investigation revealed social media shenanigans, but made no mention of hacking anyone’s computers, why?

Voting like almost every other political issue has leaked into our social fabric, and these swamp creatures are using it to their own discretion.

Sit back, observe the flip/flopping on arguments.
The hypocrisy.
It’s sadly funny, and very revealing.
Dupes, lemmings, and sheep, uttering stuff they don’t even know if it’s true or false.

WebsterMark wrote on 02/19/18 at 12:52:06:



we aren't as "left" as you think, and you are probably always around like minded individuals like yourself so you're in the echo chamber and those kinds of environments often send signals to those of the opposing view to just stay quiet .

and I'm a hermit, I don't hang out anywhere

I have a voter ID card... AZ updates the roles every couple of years... They send me a note or e-mail asking that I verify the address.
Done... It works, and it's already being done.
Also,.. here, you can vote by mail, and that leaves a paper trail.

raydawg wrote on 02/19/18 at 14:23:58:


+1

also, since the left is in the media, the right have all those chances to respond to those leftist things without actually responding to someone face to face. so you can see the right responding to faceless media types all the time, and after hearing some of the most disgusting disturbing responses, those of us who are center left, just say, nah, nevermind.  


also, a lot of the left are very very very casually political, not really deep involved and ingrained in them to pick every political fight, they just do their job, love their family and go on, but when it comes time to vote, because of how the right often portray themselves or are portrayed in the media, the left often seems like a "nicer" option, notice I put nice in quotes because that's a very subjective word and I'm sure you're going to go off about how abortion isn't nice and how stealing people's money through taxes isnt' nice and antifa and and and blah blah blah...   but look at how you all rail against those things, there just doesn't seem to be much compassion on the right, the compassionate conservative died with George W. Bush.  YOU KILLED HIM, not us on the left.

WebsterMark wrote on 02/19/18 at 14:43:35:


Can Trump talk about the  tragedy in Florida without having to say “gun violence”?

Can Trump talk about the  tragedy in Florida without having to say “gun violence”?

I'm not following you. Plus, I didn't hear what he said, I was busy.

raydawg wrote on 02/19/18 at 14:23:58:

I disagree, no it doesn't.
When you say muslim terrorist, you identify their motivations and targets.
Same as the labels conservative and liberal.  You bring to mind a stereotype that assumes certain interests and qualities.