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justin_o_guy2
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Maybe we are being lied to
02/16/18 at 09:33:32
https://crimeresearch.org/2015/06/comparing-death-rates-from-mass-public-shootin
gs-in-the-us-and-europe/
Above without the
[url][/url] button..
https://crimeresearch.org/2015/06/comparing-death-rates-from-mass-public-shoo...
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The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke.
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02/16/18 at 10:34:17
Board of directors of Crimesearch includes Ted Nugent and Sheriff Dave Clark (currently resigned and facing criminal trial)...
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Ludicrous Speed !... ...
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justin_o_guy2
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02/16/18 at 10:36:41
So it's all lies?
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The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke.
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02/16/18 at 10:50:11
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jun/22/barack-obama/b...
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The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke.
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02/16/18 at 11:15:27
Serowbot wrote
on 02/16/18 at 10:34:17:
Board of directors of Crimesearch includes Ted Nugent and Sheriff Dave Clark (currently resigned and facing criminal trial)...
So how would you, rate that,
Compare that, to,
Chicken Noodle News, 'yahoo', or a, Comedy Skit ?
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is
More TRUE
, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock)
well, mostly
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02/16/18 at 11:50:57
that source is distributing them by Per Capita to get the results to look that way.
That's not necessarily an unfair way to evaluate the stats, but it's still a distortion of the facts.
but notice it doesn't offer the facts in any other way, they only show them distorted/evaluated per capita. which makes Obama a liar, but we don't know if Obama just wasn't evaluating them the same away. frequency is frequency, not frequency per capita, "so this just doesn't happen" could still be very much true.
and it doesn't seem to reveal it's source for its stats and if you click on what it lists as it's sources, it links you to another one of their own articles about that source instead of the original source
aka, I don't really trust this site.
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Re: Maybe we are being lied to
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02/16/18 at 11:54:00
justin_o_guy2 wrote
on 02/16/18 at 10:50:11:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jun/22/barack-obama/b...
from that at the end:
EDITOR’S NOTE, June 22, 2015: We heard from several of you regarding Obama's use of the word "frequency," and that frequency could refer to the incidents of mass shootings, not deaths as we examined.
Looking at Obama's claim by incident, the United States has a higher rate of incidents than Finland, Norway and Switzerland.
We agree that there is no preferred comparison and each is valid, and we've changed some language in this article to reflect that. We also agree that China has a larger population than the United States, a fact we weren't initially clear about but have since fixed. That said, we are sticking with our rating of Mostly False, in large measure because of Obama's claim that "this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries." That is incorrect. We know some of you will disagree, and we'll be sure to air out some of your objections in our next reader mailbag.
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