Again

"Remove, legislate, demand, tell, in any way,
the, ‘exact way’, a person can make money."
 
 Nobody said that.  NN does not do this so your arguments are about things that don't exist.  Its not about a person getting access like your walk out of the cardboard box comment, its about paying for equal access.

 In all actuality allowing corporations to control our flow of information is the very thing you don't want the government to do.

 I don't think you have a full grasp of what NN actually is.

Just some of the statements made by,
supporters’, of more regulation.

“… Another issue is the potential for an ISP provider to eventually limit data so if I have Comcast I can not access MSNBC unless I drive out of town.  Of course a competitor could come in, build the infrastructure and in some amount of years provide the same level of service.  …”

“…Its about ISP providers controlling your content through speed. …”

“…If I want to use Spotify instead of Pandora then Spotify needs to invest in paying my ISP more instead of investing in offering me a better product. …”

“…doesn’t charge data to use their applications, but they do on non-network sites and they slow them down. …”

“…I’d like to see better more free market solutions, that’s a much much harder fight …”

“…I’d prefer to have some legal protections…"

“…showing some of the physical infrastructure that is manipulated by ISP’s….,”

“…lif your comcast delivery had its way, why wouldn’t they throttle sites they weren’t making as much profit off of….”

“…if the big ISPs are in love with it, chances are it’s not good…”



If a  ISP charges 100.00 to the net.
They offer sites 1,2,3, fast, and sites 4,5,6 slow.
But I want sites 4,5,6 fast, the SAME as sites 1,2,3,

What to do.
Chose another ISP ?
 Or make a law to,  ’Spread the Wealth’ ?

Some complain, that some places can ONLY get ONE, ISP ?
Where exactly is that.?
Just because one has a hard wire, from a company going to their house, it does NOT mean that they, Have to use that company that owns that wire.

My Opinion is:
NN will sort it self out.
It does Not need, ‘Government Regulations',
to TELL, it exactly, what to do.

But their is always, those that believe;
 “I am from the Government, and I am here to Help you”.

"It does Not need, ‘Government Regulations',
to TELL, it exactly, what to do."

 Nobody is doing that.  NN is not telling an ISP exactly what to do but I understand that you think it is.

 I still think if the government was controlling our internet data in the same way cell providers do, and that ISPs will, then it would be a different story.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/31/18 at 18:27:36:




https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/06/50-million-us-homes-ha...

a neat map:





http://www.businessinsider.com/internet-isps-competition-net-neutrality-ajit-...

Quote:


Quote:



According to the FCC's latest Internet Access Services report (which is accurate as of 2015), just 24% of developed areas in America had at least two ISPs that offered official broadband speeds.FCC



oh and JOG, I'm not sure "Just because one has a hard wire, from a company going to their house, it does NOT mean that they, Have to use that company that owns that wire."  is true.  because this:

"One way to do this is a process known as “local loop unbundling.” This involves regulating ISPs to lease or open up the “last mile” of their infrastructure to other ISPs, who’d then sell internet service plans over the wires that are already in place. The immense barriers to entry for any would-be ISP would disappear.

This would be a radical change, one that’d effectively tell Comcast and Charter and Verizon that the infrastructure they helped pay for no longer belongs to them alone. But it could result in a floodgate of competition, potentially bringing far more choice between price and speeds in all parts of the country."  

from the Business Insider article


Also for some reason, I'm confused, sometimes it seems like you support net neutrality, at least it's anti corruption/consolidation of power aspects but in this post you say you support the END of Net Neutrality....  

given your super conservative bent, I imagine you buying their BS about NN hook, line and sinker.

You act like I have a Clue about how phone data are dealt with, outside the fact that the nsa sniffs all of our data.

If there's a correlation, please explain.

I don't think I've said anything supporting anyone limiting access or speed and said I'm in favor of it.
One day, hopefully, the libertarian position I continue pushing will be seen for what it is.

 I had some numbers run for my location:

 "Some complain, that some places can ONLY get ONE, ISP ?
Where exactly is that.?
Just because one has a hard wire, from a company going to their house, it does NOT mean that they, Have to use that company that owns that wire."

 Where my business is - Yes, the wire that connects into the building DOES apply to one ISP provider, we can not use it for anything other than Comcast.  I can try to pay Centurylink, the only other ISP here to bring in lines however they can not offer the speeds we use for work data transfer.  They said maybe in a few years they would have "larger lines" but to pay for them it would be in the 10's of thousands.

 I can get satellite internet and I asked for a quote for our typical activity, I sent 1 years worth of usage statistics to the company.  The quote for satellite internet is $4,100 - $4,800 monthly.  This quote came with a lengthy explanation of how this type of service is typically used briefly, for emergencies and not at the amounts we use.  Also I would have to lease or buy what amounts to a military grade dish.

 

Internet, telephone and cable, bundled by the telephone company.
I CAN'T drop the landline and keep other things. If I drop internet I "Save " about ten bucks. They have it sewn up.