I'm gonna get me some BK tonight!
Well done King!

verslagen1 wrote on 01/24/18 at 13:44:34:


More like, a company that offered several menu items (youtube, netflix, hulu, vimeo, etc.) would offer some at a premium - if they didn't own it, or some at a base cost, if they didn't own it.

Think about it - if your comcast delivery had its way, why wouldn't they throttle sites they weren't making as much profit off of.  Like in the video, they can make more off of chicken sandwiches than whoppers.

Perfect analogy.

I’ve had it with, and without, and I see can’t tell you personally, the difference I’ve been able to discern.

raydawg wrote on 01/24/18 at 14:13:49:



no, you actually haven't experienced the internet without Net Neutrality,

you've just experienced it with and without it written down as a regulation.

the default of ISPs has been Net Neutrality as that is "in the spirit" of the internet as it was founded

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/24/18 at 14:23:42:


Talking points or logic?

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/24/18 at 14:23:42:



well they did, then they were sued, which is what started this whole thing with getting it written down as a regulation.  they've even denied service to internet services like Bit Torrent.

https://techcrunch.com/2009/12/22/comcast-settles-bandwidth-throttling-lawsui...

https://www.wired.com/2007/11/comcast-sued-ov/

and so has Verizon https://www.extremetech.com/computing/186576-verizon-caught-throttling-netfli...

"They don't decide to drag their feet based on what they get from the manufacturer or shipper."  

and judging from the articles above, they actually have in the past, to put pressure on that "manufacturer or shipper" to pay them to make that "manufacturer or shipper's" customers put pressure on them or drop them completely for their OWN alternative product.

all that lead to the FCC doing that whole title 2 thing.

now in an ideal world, competition would be the answer, and laws and regulations or even deregulations in the right areas maybe,  encouraging competition and growth would be the better answer, but our telecomm industry has been based on monopolies since they started with Ma' Bell

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/24/18 at 14:33:01:


maybe, but having the law ensured at least a basic understanding of expectations for ISP behavior, without it, well, capitalism rules and dog eat dog. There's no fair playing field for competition.  and the law was a very very light touch on the ISP industry,

now there are things that the FCC could do that'd be better, instead of burying their collective heads in the sand and letting the invisible hand of the market sort it out, things that'd increase competition and growth. like open up some bandwidths for use by WiFi networks, and finding ways to encourage competition

Gotta admit appreciation for the perspectives I'm seeing.