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seve321 Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 55	kickstand light coming on with start button 11/26/17 at 11:52:13 I have a 86 savage and I just replaced the starter. Now I can't get it move. I hear 2 clicks and nothing moving at all. I've also notice when I have the kickstand light off it will come back on when I press the start button. could that be whats causing the starter to not move?
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Re: kickstand light coming on with start button
Reply #1 - 11/26/17 at 11:59:29

seve321 wrote on 11/26/17 at 11:52:13:

I have a 86 savage and I just replaced the starter. Now I can't get it move.

1st. why did you replace the starter?
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I hear 2 clicks and nothing moving at all.

2nd, I think you need to adjust the decomp solenoid or recharge your battery. When you activate the starter, what's the voltage?
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I've also notice when I have the kickstand light off it will come back on when I press the start button. could that be whats causing the starter to not move?

Possible, but more likely you have a short.

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Christof13T Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 211 Vicoria, Texas Gender:	Re: kickstand light coming on with start button Reply #2 - 11/26/17 at 11:59:53 The first click is your decompression solenoid... the second may be your starter solenoid trying to close the circuit. It is possible you have a bad kick stand switch, a short, or a failing starter or solenoid.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28889 L.A. California Gender:	Re: kickstand light coming on with start button Reply #3 - 11/26/17 at 12:02:04 the '86 also has an issue of breaking starter teeth. on shut down the engine can kick back against the starter either busting teeth or busting out the mounting for the starter. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1288911670
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Re: kickstand light coming on with start button
Reply #4 - 11/26/17 at 12:06:42

Christof13T wrote on 11/26/17 at 11:59:53:

The first click is your decompression solenoid... the second may be your starter solenoid trying to close the circuit.

It is possible you have a bad kick stand switch, a short, or a failing starter or solenoid.

a bad KS switch would result in the starter being inactive.
starter was just replaced, but is questionable. But hopefully tested prior to installation.
Yes, relay could be bad, check the voltage at the starter.

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seve321 Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 55	Re: kickstand light coming on with start button Reply #5 - 11/26/17 at 12:18:45 I replaced the old starter because the internal magnets were all broken.I checked the new starter and it working like it should (even checked it with it installed on the bike). I've recently replaced the relay as well. It looks like there's no voltage going to the starter.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28889 L.A. California Gender:	Re: kickstand light coming on with start button Reply #6 - 11/26/17 at 12:50:10 if you got 2 clicks, then both the decomp and the relay are going. I would suspect the decomp adjustment, but check the power to the starter.
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seve321 Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 55	Re: kickstand light coming on with start button Reply #7 - 11/26/17 at 12:52:33 There seems to be no power going to the starter at all
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28889 L.A. California Gender:	Re: kickstand light coming on with start button Reply #8 - 11/26/17 at 12:55:56 relay, new or used?
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seve321 Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 55	Re: kickstand light coming on with start button Reply #9 - 11/26/17 at 13:04:04 relay was replaced a couple of months ago. Although I've been trying to start it up a lot because my carb was gunked up.
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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: kickstand light coming on with start button Reply #10 - 11/26/17 at 13:27:29 Starting it a lot is what killed your first starter it overheated and is why the magnets released use the starter for a minute ,it then needs to rest(cool down) for ten or fifteen before using again .IF the bike doesn't start on the first few rpm, it wont start at all ,you need to look for the problem .
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28889 L.A. California Gender:	Re: kickstand light coming on with start button Reply #11 - 11/26/17 at 14:38:33 verslagen1 wrote on 11/26/17 at 12:55:56: relay, new or used?
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seve321 Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 55	Re: kickstand light coming on with start button Reply #12 - 11/26/17 at 15:22:50 So its looking like the starter solenoid is bad. I jumped the two terminals on to solenoid with a flat head screwdriver and it turned over.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28889 L.A. California Gender:	Re: kickstand light coming on with start button Reply #13 - 11/26/17 at 15:43:20 is it possible the control leads are hooked up backwards?
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seve321 Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 55	Re: kickstand light coming on with start button Reply #14 - 11/26/17 at 15:49:43 Its possible since I've changed it out before, but before my starter went out it was working fine. and I haven't messed with it since i put it in.
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