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Re: Knocking/Clacking - Lower End?
Reply #30 - 10/19/17 at 12:18:39

Dave wrote on 10/19/17 at 12:13:19:

There isn't any oil in the well under the cam.....as you tipped and moved the engine around getting it out of the bike.

The cam/rockers/bearings all look fine - there were not the source of any knocking noise.

The black marks are likely just paint or marker from a factory worker showing the parts was completed at their work station.

The missing nut does hold the front of the head tight, and oil can weep around the head gasket layers and ooze out this spot. It is a slow weep and does not affect the oil system. Get the right nut - it is a flanged nut with a smooth bottom - get the factory part. Clean up the stud and put a little sealant on the threads and bottom of the nut when you install it.

That's good to know. I was planning on buying the correct nut, no worries. Then the next step would be to remove the side covers and check both sides for signs of damage or looseness, right? In doing so, I can prepare to remove the head as well, since after the side covers the cylinder would likely be the next step.
I think I have this under control then. I'll likely buy every single gasket, regardless whether the old is damaged, and just replace them all. This should be fun!

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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5103 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Knocking/Clacking - Lower End? Reply #31 - 10/19/17 at 15:30:48 Building engines is nothing but fun. Getting to know how all your engine , clutch & trans all work is a good thing. I think it's my favorite part of a build , next to riding it !
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Knocking/Clacking - Lower End? Reply #32 - 10/19/17 at 16:46:11 Get it apart Evaluate it Decide what to do Buy parts Don't buy stuff you don't need
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Steph YaBB Newbies Offline Posts: 47 Phoenix, Arizona Gender:	Re: Knocking/Clacking - Lower End? Reply #33 - 10/19/17 at 16:48:27 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/19/17 at 16:46:11: Get it apart Evaluate it Decide what to do Buy parts Don't buy stuff you don't need Absolutely. I've bought nothing yet. Wasn't planning to until I figured out what I needed to fix
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Steph YaBB Newbies Offline Posts: 47 Phoenix, Arizona Gender:	Re: Knocking/Clacking - Lower End? Reply #34 - 10/20/17 at 20:04:23 Is there some sort of trick you getting the left side cover off? I have all of the bolts off, but it just won't budge.
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5103 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Knocking/Clacking - Lower End? Reply #35 - 10/20/17 at 20:12:46 The stator magnets are stronger than you are ! Keep trying , it has to come straight off. No prying , that's cheating !
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Knocking/Clacking - Lower End? Reply #36 - 10/20/17 at 20:55:39 Remove the access plug. Then you can grab.
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Steph YaBB Newbies Offline Posts: 47 Phoenix, Arizona Gender:	Re: Knocking/Clacking - Lower End? Reply #37 - 10/21/17 at 21:26:46 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/20/17 at 20:55:39: Remove the access plug. Then you can grab. Is it normally threaded? Even using a gasket scraper, the tool bent before it even loosened when I turned counter clockwise.
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5103 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Knocking/Clacking - Lower End? Reply #38 - 10/21/17 at 21:49:17 Find a washer that fits the slot snugly & put a vise grip on the washer.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Knocking/Clacking - Lower End? Reply #39 - 10/21/17 at 21:56:38 Put some bolts in the case. Fit a piece of hard metal to the slot. Cardboard makes getting the radius close a lot easier. Don't tighten it as tight as they did. Antisieze is your friend. After a couple of hours of failure I grabbed a worn out mower blade and cut it , fit it, it's a tool on the wall.
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Re: Knocking/Clacking - Lower End?
Reply #40 - 10/22/17 at 00:06:11

Steph wrote on 10/21/17 at 21:26:46:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/20/17 at 20:55:39:

Remove the access plug.
Then you can grab.

Is it normally threaded? Even using a gasket scraper, the tool bent before it even loosened when I turned counter clockwise.

yes it is. if you're in a bind to find something that works, if you happen to have an old brake pad, that'll fit in the slot, and use a crescent wrench to turn as close to the case as you can. if you don't have a brake pad, the plate that holds down the tank fits, but it will twist a little. hit the plug a few times with a hammer to break loose any corrosion that maybe locking the two together.
don't hit the slot with a screwdriver you'll just punch a hole in it.

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Re: Knocking/Clacking - Lower End?
Reply #41 - 10/23/17 at 14:55:41

verslagen1 wrote on 10/22/17 at 00:06:11:

Steph wrote on 10/21/17 at 21:26:46:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/20/17 at 20:55:39:

Remove the access plug.
Then you can grab.

Is it normally threaded? Even using a gasket scraper, the tool bent before it even loosened when I turned counter clockwise.

yes it is. if you're in a bind to find something that works, if you happen to have an old brake pad, that'll fit in the slot, and use a crescent wrench to turn as close to the case as you can. if you don't have a brake pad, the plate that holds down the tank fits, but it will twist a little. hit the plug a few times with a hammer to break loose any corrosion that maybe locking the two together.
don't hit the slot with a screwdriver you'll just punch a hole in it.

I finally got both the cover and the full side cover off, so thank you! The gasket was what was holding it together so tightly, it looks like the original gasket from when the bike was made in 2011 - it crumbled. Looking around, I didn't see anything in particular that could be causing the sound issues.
Obviously I can't get to the flywheel yet, but I think I will check the cylinder first. Just in case, I'll attach a picture of the inside for those with better eyes than I.
https://imgur.com/gallery/3OHEM

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Knocking/Clacking - Lower End? Reply #42 - 10/23/17 at 17:16:07 Where the starter comes through looks odd. But I have never been there.
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18099 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Knocking/Clacking - Lower End? Reply #43 - 10/23/17 at 17:39:07 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/23/17 at 17:16:07: Where the starter comes through looks odd. But I have never been there. Looks OK to me.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Knocking/Clacking - Lower End? Reply #44 - 10/23/17 at 20:54:07 I tried,
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