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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8010	Re: Typical Christians Reply #15 - 09/19/17 at 15:35:34 What part of what he said was incorrect? Tossing around the word ignorant is pretty easy.
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Reply #16 - 09/19/17 at 16:30:16

T And T Garage wrote on 09/19/17 at 14:43:52:

pg wrote on 09/19/17 at 13:27:38:

Are Christian supremacists murdering Muslims in Europe, or are Muslims committing acts of terrorism in Europe and conducting genocide against Christians in the Middle East?

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There you have it ladies and gentlemen - ignorance.

Hey pg - I sure hope you're better at reading greens than you are words...

What is it amateur hour? He is going to single out and criticizing the Christian faith over a hazing incident. Is that the worst incident you can find? No word about the barbaric acts of murder & rape being committed in the Middle East & Europe on a daily basis.

And he calls me ignorant and talks about hypocrisy in an other post.

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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: Typical Christians Reply #17 - 09/20/17 at 05:43:06 Eegore wrote on 09/19/17 at 15:35:34: What part of what he said was incorrect? Tossing around the word ignorant is pretty easy. Do you know what bigotry is? pg and the like are a perfect example. How many civilians has the US killed in the Middle East? What's our motivation? Again Eegore, it's about the hypocrisy.
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Reply #18 - 09/20/17 at 05:47:33

pg wrote on 09/19/17 at 16:30:16:

T And T Garage wrote on 09/19/17 at 14:43:52:

pg wrote on 09/19/17 at 13:27:38:

Are Christian supremacists murdering Muslims in Europe, or are Muslims committing acts of terrorism in Europe and conducting genocide against Christians in the Middle East?

Best regards,

There you have it ladies and gentlemen - ignorance.

Hey pg - I sure hope you're better at reading greens than you are words...

What is it amateur hour? He is going to single out and criticizing the Christian faith over a hazing incident.

Are you that dense??? Do you honestly think that I would be that hypocritical???

Go read my responses to people other than you on this post.

Get a clue.... It was a poor attempt at sarcasm I guess.... smh

Is that the worst incident you can find? No word about the barbaric acts of murder & rape being committed in the Middle East & Europe on a daily basis.

And he calls me ignorant and talks about hypocrisy in an other post.

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Reply #19 - 09/20/17 at 07:52:26

Do you know what bigotry is?

pg and the like are a perfect example.

How many civilians has the US killed in the Middle East? What's our motivation?

Again Eegore, it's about the hypocrisy.

Are you referring to "the US" as Christians or are you broadening the topic beyond the Christian element you originally posted?

What part of the statement asking if "Christian" supremacists are murdering Muslims in Europe is incorrect? Statistically very few Christians murder Muslims in Europe compared to Muslims killing Christians abroad.

Not like it matters, murder is murder, motivation is motivation. If we are going to talk, talk to someone that's able to do something, offer solutions or help. Or go do something about it yourself.

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Reply #20 - 09/20/17 at 10:50:22

Eegore wrote on 09/20/17 at 07:52:26:

Are you referring to "the US" as Christians or are you broadening the topic beyond the Christian element you originally posted?

Again Eegore - I think you missed the point.

Here is my original post:

http://www.dailyherald.com/news/20170918/5-wheaton-college-football-players-c...

At a Christian school.... how about that?

Yeah, all Christians are like this, right?

Now, do you honestly think I was doing anything else but trying to elicit a response? "All Christians are like this, right?" is meant as sarcasm. Not sure how this is so tough to understand.

What part of the statement asking if "Christian" supremacists are murdering Muslims in Europe is incorrect? That goes right to the point I'm trying to make. Instead of responding with the "oh yeah, well Muslims are worse...", I'd like to see an acknowledgement that - yeah, Christians can be pretty messed up too.

Statistically very few Christians murder Muslims in Europe compared to Muslims killing Christians abroad.

This may be true, but we (as a country) have killed far more civilians than Muslim extremists have. Further, everyone seems to forget how many Muslims are killed by Muslim extremists every year. Sorry, I don't buy into the whole "war on Christianity" thing.

Not like it matters, murder is murder, motivation is motivation. If we are going to talk, talk to someone that's able to do something, offer solutions or help. Or go do something about it yourself.

Very true - but the first step in solving a problem is admitting that you have one. We definitely have one in this country... Things like bigotry, racism, sexism, misogyny, xenophobia, homophobia are all too prevalent in this day and age.

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Reply #21 - 09/20/17 at 10:51:27

T And T Garage wrote on 09/20/17 at 05:43:06:

Eegore wrote on 09/19/17 at 15:35:34:

What part of what he said was incorrect?

Tossing around the word ignorant is pretty easy.

How many civilians has the US killed in the Middle East? What's our motivation?

How many civilians in the Middle East have been killed by US non-military personnel or contracted groups such as Blackwater? Do you believe the motivation of our Military is to spread Christianity? Why do you think our Military is in the Middle East?

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Reply #22 - 09/20/17 at 11:02:56

pg wrote on 09/20/17 at 10:51:27:

T And T Garage wrote on 09/20/17 at 05:43:06:

Eegore wrote on 09/19/17 at 15:35:34:

What part of what he said was incorrect?

Tossing around the word ignorant is pretty easy.

How many civilians has the US killed in the Middle East? What's our motivation?

How many civilians in the Middle East have been killed by US non-military personnel or contracted groups such as Blackwater? Do you believe the motivation of our Military is to spread Christianity? Why do you think our Military is in the Middle East?

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I asked it first. (but I know the answer and it's worse than religion...)

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Reply #23 - 09/20/17 at 16:29:10

Please stay on topic, the premise of this thread is your discernment for Christians (while you tell us to be tolerant of all various groups who you deem appropriate.)

By your own admission Christians aren’t committing acts of horror towards Muslims in Europe. Your inference of we have killed many Muslims is a direct reference to our Military occupation of various parts of the Middle East. The US military is not comprised of people solely of the Christian faith. The purpose of the military is to use force to support the interests of the state. Muslims use force to propagate their religious beliefs. Those are completely different objectives.

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Reply #24 - 09/20/17 at 16:48:30

T And T Garage wrote on 09/20/17 at 05:47:33:

pg wrote on 09/19/17 at 16:30:16:

T And T Garage wrote on 09/19/17 at 14:43:52:

pg wrote on 09/19/17 at 13:27:38:

Are Christian supremacists murdering Muslims in Europe, or are Muslims committing acts of terrorism in Europe and conducting genocide against Christians in the Middle East?

Best regards,

There you have it ladies and gentlemen - ignorance.

Hey pg - I sure hope you're better at reading greens than you are words...

What is it amateur hour? He is going to single out and criticizing the Christian faith over a hazing incident.

Do you honestly think that I would be that hypocritical???

YES

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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 8999 Minn Gender:	Re: Typical Christians Reply #25 - 09/20/17 at 17:37:29 pg wrote on 09/20/17 at 16:48:30: "...YES..." That, would be, ‘Primary Blue'. !!!!!!!!
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Reply #26 - 09/21/17 at 06:42:44

"Very true - but the first step in solving a problem is admitting that you have one. We definitely have one in this country... Things like bigotry, racism, sexism, misogyny, xenophobia, homophobia are all too prevalent in this day and age."

What's your second step? What are you doing to reduce this in your community?

I volunteer time and secure venue for a Model UN that the local high schools participate in. I typically represent war-torn or 3rd world countries with real world data/statistics.

I escort medical/surgical teams to Haiti every year to educate and assist with running a Haitian staffed clinic, and we encourage kids over 14 to come with us to experience something they never have before.

We assist with aid logistics worldwide but mostly in the US and intentionally try to integrate volunteer travelers with locals instead of staying nearby in hotels.

I'm on the board of directors for ACOVA, and assist with fundraising for the local Rape Crisis Services and YWCA.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Typical Christians Reply #27 - 09/21/17 at 07:00:41 We've seen people from so many backgrounds. That's a new one, for sure. A Thumbs Up just isn't Enough.
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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: Typical Christians Reply #28 - 09/21/17 at 08:23:01 pg wrote on 09/20/17 at 16:48:30: Do you honestly think that I would be that hypocritical??? [/quote] YES Best regards, [/quote] Well... surprise, surprise - you're wrong again!! Seriously genius - read my other posts.
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Reply #29 - 09/21/17 at 08:38:20

Eegore wrote on 09/21/17 at 06:42:44:

"Very true - but the first step in solving a problem is admitting that you have one. We definitely have one in this country... Things like bigotry, racism, sexism, misogyny, xenophobia, homophobia are all too prevalent in this day and age."

What's your second step? What are you doing to reduce this in your community?

I'm active in the Justice Democrat movement. I'm a member of WOLF-PAC.com and helped push for an amendment getting money out of politics. Further, I donate my time to a teen center and have donated a motorcycle to Combat Bikesaver. During the holidays I'm usually volunteering at the Greater Chicago Food Depository as well as being a somewhat active member of Toys For Tots.

I volunteer time and secure venue for a Model UN that the local high schools participate in. I typically represent war-torn or 3rd world countries with real world data/statistics.

Cool - I don't know of a program like that near me (all my kids are now adults) - but that sounds pretty cool - good on you!

I escort medical/surgical teams to Haiti every year to educate and assist with running a Haitian staffed clinic, and we encourage kids over 14 to come with us to experience something they never have before.

Again - that's awesome. We need more folks like you out there! Are you a pilot or...?

We assist with aid logistics worldwide but mostly in the US and intentionally try to integrate volunteer travelers with locals instead of staying nearby in hotels.

I'm on the board of directors for ACOVA, and assist with fundraising for the local Rape Crisis Services and YWCA.

I come up short next to you - however, I did offer to open my home to exchange students but was turned down last year (I didn't make the cutoff this year) and when one of my kids was struggling with addiction, I did some work for AA - nothing big, just helped with some printing and mailing.

However - I pale in comparison to your actions. Again - thanks!!

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