SuzukiSavage.com - Head plug/cap leak question

rong

Full Member

Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 120

Head plug/cap leak question
09/08/17 at 11:04:20

My question has to do with the 'head plug/cap' that is right above the front cylinder nut.

There is a general consensus that this 'head plug/cap' (also called the 'cap, cylinder head seal') could leak as the LS650 puts on mileage.

I have also read on this site that Suzuki has changed the head plug part number over the years. I verified this on the 'suzukipartshouse.com' website:

Part number 11145-37400 (1995 and before)
Part number 11145-41B01 and 11145-37401 (Both part numbers in the years 1996-2004.
Part number 11145-37401 (2005-2017)

So my question is: Has the new updated part number (11145-37401) solved this leak problem?

I have a 2015 LS650 with about 4500 miles on it and wonder if this leak is something that I should anticipate coming? ... or ... Did Suzuki solve the leak problem by upgrading this part by using part number 11145-37401 over the older part numbers?

If the newer part number doesn't solve the leak problem, then at what mileage can I assume that this seal will start leaking? (or at least a best guess)

Thanks for your help,
Ron G

Back to top

IP Logged

norm92de Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1180 El Paso TX Gender:	Re: Head plug/cap leak question Reply #1 - 09/08/17 at 11:38:03 Ron, Already have my contingency plan. I bought a Versy plug for when or if my plug leaks. His plug is so superior to the stock part that it would be foolish after stripping the engine to fit Suzuki's plug. My bike is a 2014 with 6000 plus miles on it, no leaks so far.
Back to top	2014 S40. Raptor. idle mixture adj.Needle raised one notch. 4000' altitude. Stock jets. Shell Rotella synthetic. IP Logged

batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: Head plug/cap leak question Reply #2 - 09/08/17 at 15:33:38 It's like the petcock ,you never know until it happens,I have a 1995 that had the old style ,and didn't leak until 19,000 miles,some have leaked around 5,000, but it's not something to panic over as it will just weep at first ,giving you a kind of advanced notice.
Back to top	my old work mates called me MacGyver IP Logged

rong Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 120	Re: Head plug/cap leak question Reply #3 - 09/11/17 at 11:25:01 Thanks for the input. (19,000 miles is a long time before leaking.) I do eventually plan on buying a Versy plug if it begins to leak. However, I was hoping someone would know for sure if the new plug solves the problem. Just hoping someone would know. Ron G
Back to top	IP Logged

ohiomoto Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2775	Re: Head plug/cap leak question Reply #4 - 09/11/17 at 18:20:24 I put a new style plug in mine at about 3k miles Holding good after 5k plus miles.
Back to top	IP Logged

batman

Serious Thumper

Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 3806
osceola new york
Gender: male

Re: Head plug/cap leak question
Reply #5 - 09/11/17 at 18:23:51

Even the new model stock plug will work ,(11,000 miles so far) as Vercy's wasn't around when I changed mine ,putting sealer on it before installing is the key ,because the factory didn't. Vercy's plug would be better ,it is made of alum. which will expand and contract with the change in temps ,matching the head,and it has two o-rings (if I remember) giving it a double seal.

Back to top

my old work mates called me MacGyver

IP Logged

ohiomoto Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2775	Re: Head plug/cap leak question Reply #6 - 09/12/17 at 05:32:01 + 1 on the sealant.
Back to top	IP Logged

Dave

YaBB Moderator
ModSquad

Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 18101
Camp Springs, Kentucky
Gender: male

Re: Head plug/cap leak question
Reply #7 - 09/12/17 at 06:21:27

I believe the problem with the stock plug, is that over time the heat begins to harden and shrink the plug, and it no longer seals off the hole. With age and mileage I believe that even the newer style plug will leak.

The Versy plug is aluminum and has 2 high heat O-rings. 1 of the O-rings seals in the bore, the other one seals against the flat surface on top of the head - it is your best chance at a durable repair.

Back to top

Someday I will be old......But not today!

IP Logged

ohiomoto

Serious Thumper

Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 2775

Re: Head plug/cap leak question
Reply #8 - 09/12/17 at 06:39:00

Dave wrote on 09/12/17 at 06:21:27:

I believe the problem with the stock plug, is that over time the heat begins to harden and shrink the plug, and it no longer seals off the hole. With age and mileage I believe that even the newer style plug will leak.

--------------------------------

You may be right but my 96 only had 3500 miles on it when I got it and it leaked like a mother. The new style plug has surpassed that already. Granted, it's only little over a year old, but I'm not sure heat and mileage is the problem.

It's more likely that design and possibly materials are the issue. Suzuki changed the design (not sure about the material) and I added some sealant. I guess we'll see how long it ages.

Back to top

IP Logged

rong Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 120	Re: Head plug/cap leak question Reply #9 - 09/14/17 at 10:27:55 Thanks for all of your input. Very helpful. Ron G
Back to top	IP Logged