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08/15/17 at 20:10:45
 
John Caldwell Calhoun,  the 7-8, Vice President of the United States.
Served with John Quincy Adams, & Andrew Jackson.

Their is a Lake, In Mpls  MN, named after him.
Very well known.

Their are other, ’stores’ around the area, also named,
Calhoun:  Liqueurs, Book store, Clothing store, etc, etc, etc.
  (Their is probably one named: Calhoun, ’Snowflake safe gathering space’)

When the, Fairy Dust Sprinklers, all got up about how, Calhoun, was a’ Hawk’, and supported, ’Southern Rights’.  They all got up in arms about him, and, wanted to CHANGE, the name of that lake, and all the businesses around.

( Of course, they all,  FORGOT, about the fact he, DIED, 10+ Years, BEFORE, the War between the States)

And also,  Never mind, that, in 1957, a Senate Committee headed by Senator John F. Kennedy selected Calhoun, (as well as Daniel Webster and Henry Clay), as one of the five greatest United States Senators of all time.

It was on Local Broadcast News, 24/7.  Then went away.
  (Even in the Fairy Dust Land of  Minn)

So, a  Statue, of Robert Lee, (and the like), is  NOT, saying, ‘everybody consents to Slavery’, it is a statue of a Historic Figure, who had BALLS,  and  Believed in his, (which the people were behind him), POV.
 Which was about,   “STATES RIGHTS”,   then  Lincoln made it about Slaves.

So the, Fairy Dust Sprinkling, want to,  REMOVE, ALL  of  HISTORY,   so they can say.   “Never Happened”  ?????????????

Why are, NOT, the: Fairy Dust Sprinkling, Kum-By-You singers, who support  B.S., and are Progressive, Ultra-Liberals, clamoring to take DOWN, ANY, statue of  ANY,  POTUS,  INCLUDING LINCOLN,  (who had  Slaves).

But wait, a group of people, who, ’supported’, a Statue.
   (Who had  Permits)
Were met with, (By  GATECRASHERS),  and Bags of  $hit,  just for expressing their POV. ?


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Reply #1 - 08/16/17 at 06:28:03
 
Today it is Confederates Statues, next it will be the Fore-Fathers statues. Progressivism is a hate filled ideology designed to enslave people under the guise of tolerance and love. Remember all true Fascist believe that their ideas are superior therefore they have the right to force it on everyone.

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Reply #2 - 08/16/17 at 07:46:15
 
George Washington,,,
What role will he have in ten years?
Drill holes and blow Rushmore to pieces?
the problem with runaway stupid is deciding where to stop.
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Reply #3 - 08/16/17 at 12:09:34
 

 There needs to be some sort of system where the public can, as individuals, cast some sort of formal indication of what they would like their government to do about these things.

 If only there was some system where the current living public had a choice, and a voice on these matters.
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Reply #4 - 08/16/17 at 17:58:11
 
Eegore wrote on 08/16/17 at 12:09:34:
   There needs to be some sort of system where the public can, as individuals, cast some sort of formal indication of what they would like their government to do about these things.    If only there was some system where the current living public had a choice, and a voice on these matters.


"...If only there was some system where the current living public had a choice, and a voice on these matters..."

Ah, their IS.
   It has been in place for about 250 Years.
  It is called,  ‘Voting’ !


In the case of a, ’statue’, of someone/thing.
  It is, OWNED, By  YOU.
    And it was  approved by, YOU.

That ’statue’, is/on, Town, County, State, Fed land.
 It is PAID  for, by YOU.
  YOU, were asked what YOU  thought, BEFORE, it happened.

(Didn’t know, didn’t read the notices, didn’t give impute, didn’t mount a campaign for or against?  Well, No ones problem, except, yours)

If that, ’thing’ was put their, before you were born, then simple.
Take it up with the part of government, that governs that.  Mount a campaign, make your voice heard, get others to say the same thing.
It will come to a, ‘Vote’.
That is, "… a voice on these matters…”.

If I lived in a Town, where VANDALS,  tore down, a statue, because they did not like it.
  (And called it a protest, hoping the council all had their  ‘kid’ gloves on, and do nothing)
I would be up in arms, Demanding,  that the, VANDALS,  Pay for it.

Hey, someone comes into your yard, sees your, S-40, then TOTALLY  trashes it.
Are you gonna say:  “Never mind, it is only a protest”.
Or: “Who is gonna  Pay for that”?

Take the law, into your OWN  Hands?
Many did that, very long time ago.
Today,  it is different.
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Reply #5 - 08/16/17 at 18:20:19
 
.If only there was some system where the current living public had a choice, and a voice on these matters..."

Ah, their IS.
  It has been in place for about 250 Years.
 It is called,  ‘Voting’ !

Eegores. Post was running over with sarcasm. I'm gonna go Way out on a limb and say he was talking about voting
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Reply #6 - 08/16/17 at 18:28:01
 
or a ref er andum?  Yes, you try to take the clubs out of peoples hands when they are making decisions, you know, you try.
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Reply #7 - 08/16/17 at 19:26:47
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/16/17 at 18:20:19:
Eegores. Post was running over with sarcasm. I'm gonna go Way out on a limb and say he was talking about voting

Yea, I thought that, ‘may’, have been the case.

Yet took the time, for the benefit of a  person,
who will Not learn, Look, See, Experience,
Except to, ‘KNOW’, how to  SPIN.

Yea, most likely worthless,
As it will, NOT,  change any, ’Spin’, he does.
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Reply #8 - 08/16/17 at 19:57:48
 
You lost me. If you're swinging at Eegore, I wouldn't understand why.
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Reply #9 - 08/17/17 at 08:50:17
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/16/17 at 19:57:48:
You lost me. If you're swinging at Eegore, I wouldn't understand why.


 You should see the personal messages I get.

 I was referring to voting by the way.
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Reply #10 - 08/17/17 at 18:14:13
 
Eegore wrote on 08/17/17 at 08:50:17:
 You should see the personal messages I get.
 I was referring to voting by the way.


Eegore,
 
In reading the post above, I did not believed you could be that, obtuse.
But then again, in reading, T&T’s posts, I thought,  ‘Could Be’.
    That is why I posted what I did.

As to, “…the personal messages I get…”
Don’t know what, or which way they are.
That would be on the sender of that  P.M.

As to the public post.
Take it as a statement of my belief,
not a statement of my belief, of your beliefs.

Which I will, determine, what your, ‘beliefs’ are, according to what you post.
Just as you do mine.
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Reply #11 - 08/18/17 at 09:37:40
 
Just read Nancy Pelosi is calling on Speaker Paul Ryan to remove all confederate statues from the Capital Building.

This is liberalism, this is your Democratic party, this is our future if we don't stop this nonsense.

Will Robert Byrd's statue be pulled down? He was a member of the KKK? William Fulbright? Do they send rule around that the book Gone with the Wind is forbidden to be in the Capital Building?
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Reply #12 - 08/18/17 at 10:41:18
 
Waiting for the  Lincoln  Memorial in DC to be taken down.

            After all, He, ‘posed’, Slaves !
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