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Re: Another new toy, Another new forum...
Reply #75 - 09/24/17 at 23:32:01

LANCER wrote on 09/24/17 at 14:41:22:

Christof13T wrote on 08/16/17 at 22:25:12:

Gotcha.

This tick/knock really has me scratching my head.
It's source seems to move with my ear lol.
I did not feel any significant vibration associated with the tick/knock at the case cover behind the oil filter cover. I previously did not hear the noise around the head... but listening to it earlier today I just can't be sure. It's not quite to that tell tell sign of a counterweight kissing the bottom of the piston from rod journal being chewed but darn if it doesn't sound like that double tick of slack being taken up at tdc and bdc and the lightest kiss of the piston to the head. I still cant fathom that much damage at the mileage unless someone ran it with no oil at some point?

I had a very similar situation with a knocking sound that was really hard to isolate. It turned out to be the piston slapping. The engine still ran pretty strong and the knocking even disappeared once off idle a bit. After a new piston and cleaning up the cylinder and honing it again, it runs really freaking good !

Was that what prompted the 97mm upgrade?

I have settled on going ahead with Bill doing the bore, hone, and coating when I get a shiny new piston in. If bees keep me as busy as they have been then (fingers x'd) I can have it on the way to him in a week or 2.

In the meantime... A little chop chop here... and a slash or two there...

Attempting to add a pic of the piston... If it works I will add some more.

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Christof13T Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 211 Vicoria, Texas Gender:	Re: Another new toy, Another new forum... Reply #76 - 09/24/17 at 23:33:47 The jug.
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Christof13T Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 211 Vicoria, Texas Gender:	Re: Another new toy, Another new forum... Reply #77 - 09/24/17 at 23:34:42 Cam.
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Christof13T Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 211 Vicoria, Texas Gender:	Re: Another new toy, Another new forum... Reply #78 - 09/24/17 at 23:36:24 Rocker followers. What looks like a cut or scratch or line on the one follower is a reflection. They are both perfectly smooth to touch with the correct profile. No indications of excess wear.
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Christof13T Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 211 Vicoria, Texas Gender:	Re: Another new toy, Another new forum... Reply #79 - 09/24/17 at 23:40:01 Valves...
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Christof13T Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 211 Vicoria, Texas Gender:	Re: Another new toy, Another new forum... Reply #80 - 09/24/17 at 23:42:03 The bike.
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Christof13T Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 211 Vicoria, Texas Gender:	Re: Another new toy, Another new forum... Reply #81 - 09/24/17 at 23:42:54 Another pic of the bike.
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Re: Another new toy, Another new forum...
Reply #82 - 09/24/17 at 23:43:45

I think this is the pic of the odomometer...

Yeah... This was the day I rode it home when I bought it. Didn't even give it a bath before taking a pic of the miles on it lol.

It is now sitting at 4150.7
It made it 75 miles or so after the sputter incident at 70-80mph where it developed the knock. It could very well have had low compression before then for all I know...

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Reply #83 - 09/24/17 at 23:49:07

Empty bike... Heart fell out...

And no comments about my cluttered, project rich shop environment lol.
It is very neatly organized chaos!
I don't label a mothercrappity smacking thing... EVER!
I have had the ability to keep track of every single nut, bolt, screw, washer, hose clamp, spacer, alignment pin, etc on projects in the works for as long as I can remember. Even as a little nuts helping my pops work on this or that I just knew where everything needed to go to put it back together. It can look chaotic from the outside but It has rarely failed me. Measurements stick with me too. Since I acquired my Savage and then a couple weeks ago my Thundercat, I have been stricken with the strong bug to wrench on more bikes. This has prompted me to make more room in the shop... So a whole lot or organizing and rearranging has taken place in the last day and a half. I now have room for at least 3 more complete bike teardowns lol. If I get rid of an arcade machine and a jukebox I can fit one more!

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Christof13T Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 211 Vicoria, Texas Gender:	Re: Another new toy, Another new forum... Reply #84 - 09/25/17 at 00:04:03 I wonder if I feed them enough ethanol, if they might copulate and birth a YamaZuki SavageCat?
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Reply #85 - 09/25/17 at 02:58:16

I really don't know why your piston did that.....it look bad! The only time I am familiar with piston problems on the Savage, is when it is run out of oil. The bike loses some oil when ridden at sustained interstate speeds, and the owners are not used to the engine using oil - and a few have run them out of oil.

I would like a better photo of the lobes on the cam - the rockers are showing some wear, and the cam lobes might be wearing as well.

I had Boretech do my 95mm Wiseco, and I had the silicone carbide treatment done. That was about 9,000 miles ago - it is still running like new!

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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5112 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Another new toy, Another new forum... Reply #86 - 09/25/17 at 05:53:34 I agree Dave low oil level or neglected oil or possible that it ran lean for too long and problem has progressed or both. But skirt wear like that is a overheating issue the question is what caused the overheating.
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Christof13T Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 211 Vicoria, Texas Gender:	Re: Another new toy, Another new forum... Reply #87 - 09/25/17 at 10:17:57 Both cams look and feel and measure out to be free of wear. There is what may be some heat discoloration (or burnt on oil deposits) and a very small abrasion on the lobe farthest from the gear(intake). Both lobes measure out to dead nuts perfect in the middle of the tolerance call out.
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Christof13T Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 211 Vicoria, Texas Gender:	Re: Another new toy, Another new forum... Reply #88 - 09/25/17 at 10:22:24 Anything look screwy with the profile?
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Re: Another new toy, Another new forum...
Reply #89 - 09/25/17 at 10:33:09

The folower pads...
There is seriously no scoring or wear... Just some very light discoloration from what I can see on the intake pad...maybe some wiping from a very brief period of running dry? The line that looks like a dent or scratch on the exhaust pad does not show up in measurement with an indicator on my xy table. It is like a polished line... if that makes sense...
The finish on both pads is 63-32ra by feel. I might lightly polish the intake pad(I have the buffers, rouges, profile and radius gauges to do this properly).

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