justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/03/17 at 10:56:54:


Here Jog, I was trying to say using business, as a means to satisfy a belief, be it sexism, or racism, etc, through goverment sanctioned doctrine, and policies, to make things "fair" is promoting one ideology,  over another, wholesale, which, is then used as a tool to get folks to vote that party policies.
A business that has never been charged with any discrimination, but must prove it hasn't, by adopting these programs, or face consequences....
It can put a unfair burden on those businesses, as well.

It quickly becomes a tool for those holding power.

Does that make any sense?

T And T Garage wrote on 08/03/17 at 11:20:15:


Uh, you just did......

Comprehension much?

Oh look, silly me..........again.

raydawg wrote on 08/03/17 at 11:22:12:


OK then, how about questions?
So?...Um... that's not the point of this post, is it?

Was the president's spokesperson right or wrong about the poem?

WebsterMark wrote on 08/03/17 at 12:23:19:


Did you purposefully ignore this?  Also from Wiki:

Fundraising for the statue had begun in 1882. The committee organized a large number of money-raising events.[81] As part of one such effort, an auction of art and manuscripts, poet Emma Lazarus was asked to donate an original work. She initially declined, stating she could not write a poem about a statue. At the time, she was also involved in aiding refugees to New York who had fled anti-Semitic pogroms in eastern Europe. These refugees were forced to live in conditions that the wealthy Lazarus had never experienced. She saw a way to express her empathy for these refugees in terms of the statue.[82] The resulting sonnet, "The New Colossus", including the iconic lines "Give me your tired, your poor/Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free", is uniquely identified with the Statue of Liberty and is inscribed on a plaque in the museum in its base.[83]

Therefore, in essence, this poem has always been associated with the Statue of Liberty.

Miller was NOT correct.  The poem was integral to getting funding for the statue.

Therefore, in essence, this poem has always been associated with the Statue of Liberty.

Miller was NOT correct.  The poem was integral to getting funding for the statue.

No. In a few people's minds, that was true because of it's location. For the population as a whole and for the artist who created it, that was not it's intent.

The poem was not integral to the funding for the statue, it was funding for the pedestal. Granted, that might be like splitting hairs.

What I can't find is how much money the poem raised at the original auction. Can anyone?

nice try, but that's not what I meant and you know it. The statue is on an island right next to it. I know that, you know that, everyone knows that. In fact, what I just did proves the effectiveness of the Statue being co-opted for the immigration cause.

You're just trying to divert from the fact liberals have confiscated the original meaning of the statue.

Now, watch what happens in the news. Small details will be left out of this story or flat out lied about in order to make Miller and the Republicans seem wrong.

When the American Committee for the Statue of Liberty ran out of funds for the Statue's pedestal in 1884, newspaper publisher Joseph Pulitzer came to the rescue. Through urging the American public to donate money towards the pedestal in his newspaper New York World, Pulitzer raised over $100,000 in six months- more than enough money to ensure the pedestal's completion. As an article published in New York World on March 16, 1885 argued,

We must raise the money! The World is the people's paper, and now it appeals to the people to come forward and raise the money. The $250,000 that the making of the Statue cost was paid in by the masses of the French people- by the working men, the tradesmen, the shop girls, the artisans- by all, irrespective of class or condition. Let us respond in like manner. Let us not wait for the millionaires to give us this money. It is not a gift from the millionaires of France to the millionaires of America, but a gift of the whole people of France to the whole people of America.

The article's appeal was so popular that by August 11, 1885, the World collected over $100,000 in donations - most donations being about $1 or less. Roughly 125,000 people contributed to the completion of the pedestal thanks to Pulitzer's crusade. In thanks, the World published the names of each person who made a contribution (no matter its size), an act that also advanced the sales of Pulitzer's newspaper. Pulitzer died on October 29, 1911.