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07/27/17 at 10:19:53
 
No need to ask Bot, he appears to be suffering under adverse effects to his medicine still......

Catholic men's conference in crosshairs of left-wing activists

Christine Niles, a Vietnamese immigrant who helps run a parachurch organization in Michigan that promotes Roman Catholic teaching, expected to spend this week preparing theological materials and getting ready for the group’s annual conference for men.

Instead, Niles, who is editor-in-chief of Church Militant, has been in consultations with local law enforcement after learning that a left-wing group is drumming up support to shut down the conference, which will take place on Aug. 4-6 at locations in Ferndale and Sterling Heights, Mich.

“Police have reached out to both sides and will have patrol cars observing,” Niles told Fox News. “But we don’t know who the activists are associated with and we don’t know what will happen.”


The theological conference causing controversy, titled “Strength and Honor,” is billed as “offering talks on the essential role of sacrificial masculinity of Catholic men to be good husbands and fathers” and to equip attendees with tools to “gain the spiritual and mental tools to be strong leaders among the faithful.”

But according to the Michigan People’s Defense Network (MPDN), since the conference run by Church Militant -- which adheres diligently to centuries-old Roman Catholic teaching -- is exclusively for men, it “promotes a hateful, anti-woman message.”

And therefore it must be shut down.


“Many of the church’s points are lifted from or are identical to ‘men’s rights’ discourse, which focuses on reducing women’s agency and reproductive rights,’” said a Facebook post calling for local activists to join them at planned demonstrations. “The community will picket and protest to shut down the hateful messages spread at this conference.”

Step One for the MPDN, a self-proclaimed “anti-racist, anti-fascist, action group dedicated to fighting all forms of oppression,” is calling on others to join them at a press conference Friday outside the Church Militant offices in Ferndale, a Detroit suburb, to “announce action countering a ‘men’s rights’ conference.’ This will be followed by a “picket and protest” outside the conference in Sterling Heights on Aug. 5.

The network was founded late last year in response to Trump’s election under the guise that his rise has “emboldened the most right-wing, racist elements and encouraged a culture of hate.” MPDN thus vows that it is now “necessary to come out in defense of anyone under attacks by racists and fascists.” In their view, Church Militant fits that bill.

“The church also peddles racist, anti-Muslim rhetoric, painting Muslim migrants and refugees as sexual predators,” the group stated. “As the radical Christian right rises in America, having supported Donald Trump’s campaign of hatred against the most marginalized, it is more vital than ever that the community stands against hate draped in a cross.”

Niles, who has degrees from Notre Dame University and Oxford University, and her colleagues at Church Militant contend that this could not be further from the truth.

“The real bone of contention that MPDN has with Church Militant is not the spurious claims and lies it’s telling, but the positions we take on morality and decency,” the Catholic group said in a statement. “Church Militant is not a hate group; MPDN is the real hate group, trying to intimidate religious organizations into silence and shut down a conference meant to help men by fostering the virtues of humility, charity and sacrifice.”


Adel Hawkins, a member of MPDN, told Fox News they are expecting around 50-100 people to attend Friday's gathering, and rebuffed suggestions that Church Militant was "pro-immigrant" and "pro-women."

"LGBT women are women, too, and to be pro-life means that you aren't giving women full autonomy at all," she said. "To us, that isn't very pro-women at all."

Dan Gainor, vice president of business and culture at the Media Research Center, concurred that the religious outfit is hardly the “radical” one in this matter.

“The radical left is following the lead of the liberal media and attacking Church Militant. Now, even having a men’s conference on how to be good husbands and fathers generates liberal protests,” he said. “Sometimes I wonder if the same protesters just move from one event to another – never actually holding down a real job.”

This isn’t the first time Church Militant has found itself at the center of controversy in recent months.

The New York Times profiled Church Militant as having “right-wing stances against globalism, immigration, social-welfare programs and abortion,” as well as driving a “depiction of an existential war against radical Islam.” The Atlantic referred to the conservative Catholic outfit as a news organization on the “fringes” of the Catholic world run by “a group of radical Catholics.”

Even allies of Pope Francis distanced themselves in a Vatican-reviewed publication, calling out Church Militant and other pro-Trump church groups as “composed mainly of whites from the deep American South,” and adopting “shocking rhetoric” that “uses Christian symbols to impose itself.”

According to Niles, who maintains that Church Militant is "proudly pro-life, pro-women and pro-immigrant," the sudden spotlight has been a mixed bag. On one hand, their conference numbers have been bolstered by supporters upset at the effort to squash their First Amendment and religious freedom. But on the other, abuse has become commonplace.

“We now have cars driving past yelling epithets at myself and other women,” she added. “The attention on us has been ramping up quite a bit.”


Oh the irony of all of this.

Elections have consequences, a reverend man, once alluded......
I wonder, as well, if selective outrage does too?  

I am viewing this world through befuddlement....
Its like I stumbled upon a man who's house is afire.

I exclaim, "Sir, I believe unless you take some drastic actions, you'll lose your home to the flames.......!"

"Oh no." he states, "I am just getting tired of my wife constantly complaining that the house is too cold."

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Reply #1 - 07/27/17 at 10:55:15
 
No, I'm not going.  Not my community, not my fight.

However, I will weigh in on it.

I look at "church militant" as a media company pushing their morals.  It's not a church per se (imho).  So, I think that if some feel the need to protest their message, so be it.  It's no different than people protesting anything else.
(BTW - being armed is totally legal.  There have been many right wing protests where its participants were armed.)

Now, as to the "drive by" yelling mentioned in the article - that's weak.  Only the gutless do that.  I'm against that part.

But I dunno - judge for yourself about this "church":

http://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/525231/church-militant-a-right-wing-me...

They peddle fear, and that's pretty much it.

Sad.
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Reply #2 - 07/27/17 at 11:40:10
 
Yeah, some people seem to enjoy fear.
Global Warmlarmists are almost orgasmic over it.
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Reply #3 - 07/27/17 at 11:49:48
 
They peddle fear, and that's pretty much it.

Yeah, I hear ya.....

Trump will ruin us totally, huh.......

One man, with orange hair, and little hands..... HEY, BTW, I always wondered why you and Bot are fixated on tweeters hands, is that because you like guys BIG wangs and look upon those minnie weenies with disdain?
I mean really TT, what does the size of a guys whacker have to do with anything?
Does it mean a chick with small titties is inferior too?

Anyway, back to topic of fear.
You fear Trump, yes?
I mean, that is all I seem to get from you.

Do you think one guy has the ability to wreck our whole world?
You even post about he isn't getting anything done, so wouldn't that mean he can't?

Is fear real, or imagined?
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Reply #4 - 07/27/17 at 13:36:30
 
raydawg wrote on 07/27/17 at 11:49:48:
They peddle fear, and that's pretty much it.

Yeah, I hear ya.....

Trump will ruin us totally, huh.......

One man, with orange hair, and little hands..... HEY, BTW, I always wondered why you and Bot are fixated on tweeters hands, is that because you like guys BIG wangs and look upon those minnie weenies with disdain?

Actually, I've never commented on tweety's hands - I did that to someone on this board though.

I mean really TT, what does the size of a guys whacker have to do with anything?

Nothing.  I never brought it up - you just did.

Does it mean a chick with small titties is inferior too?

No - I like girls in the IBTC.

Anyway, back to topic of fear.
You fear Trump, yes?
I mean, that is all I seem to get from you.

I don't fear the man - I fear what his actions are doing to this country.

Like a baby playing with a flame-thrower.


Do you think one guy has the ability to wreck our whole world?

When that man is the leader of the free world? - um... yeah!  

You even post about he isn't getting anything done, so wouldn't that mean he can't?

Well, he's done far too much in executive orders, but nothing of any substance on the law front (so far) - but look at the world stage.  He's a joke.  I don't seem to remember kim-jong-whoever threatening so heavily when Obama or Bush was in power.  Further, this idiot puts out policy in 140 characters and then goes silent... are you kidding me?  That's not a leader - that's a child.  The harm he's doing actually goes above laws.  He creates chaos.

Is fear real, or imagined?

Our president presents a clear and present danger to the US.
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Reply #5 - 07/27/17 at 14:12:24
 
The perpetually wrong,,
So, because he's gonna start a nuclear war with Russia
Or
Because he is colluding with Putin?

Your hysterical Bullshit is old.
You've never addressed the
He's crazy! He's gonna push The Button claims that got traded for
Trump loves Putin. But your words are supposed to be compelling,, and might be to idiots.
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