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HillSavage YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 40	Even worth trying to fix? 07/23/17 at 18:45:21 Hey all, Finally got into my motor, things do not look good. As you can see the melted valve on the piston. Any advice here? I don't have much money and the motors that I am seeing are like 6-800 bucks. Obi Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope. Any thoughts?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Even worth trying to fix? Reply #1 - 07/23/17 at 18:59:03 Cylinder and head condition is what you need to consider. And Why did it do that? You might be able to buy a whole top end, head, jug, piston.
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Reply #2 - 07/23/17 at 19:09:08

Looks like a new top end for this engine. Dave has a head for sale in the marketplace. From there you'll need a new cylinder and piston kit. A big bore kit would be the way to go because it is less expensive then an OEM kit.

A used replacement engine is probably less of an initial investment, but you don't know what problems you are buying until things start to go wrong.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Even worth trying to fix? Reply #3 - 07/23/17 at 19:20:22 The budget may make the call. Year model can be a problem. Not insurmountable, but not having to swap parts to get it to spark is nice.
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Reply #4 - 07/24/17 at 02:03:16

Get some good clear photos of the head, both the chamber and the cam bearing surfaces.
Your piston is toast but I might like to take a look at it.
Check your cylinder closely after you have wiped it out really well and do it out in the sun light...you get a much better look that way.

How many miles were on the engine ?
Did your cam chain crap out on you ?

I believe I have all the parts you need, not new but good used ones if you want to save a LOT of money.

PM me and we can talk about reviving your engine.

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Savageman Senior Member Offline Knowledge is half the battle Posts: 275 Marysville, California Gender:	Re: Even worth trying to fix? Reply #5 - 07/26/17 at 12:16:58 In the picture is the piston all the way to TDC on it's stroke. If it is your rod is also bent therefore you would need a bottom end also. See if the piston goes all the way up to top of bore.
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5008 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Even worth trying to fix? Reply #6 - 07/26/17 at 12:33:01 Can you say: LEAN Or: 10,000 rpms in 7,000 rpm engine then missed a shift Or: BOTH
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5008 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Even worth trying to fix? Reply #7 - 07/26/17 at 12:36:09 Check warranty and/or bank balance ! Read that in a trouble shooting section in a old BSA manual.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Even worth trying to fix? Reply #8 - 07/26/17 at 12:40:12 Get the crap off the piston before you move it. Don't despair. A calm assessment of the situation is in order.
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Savageman Senior Member Offline Knowledge is half the battle Posts: 275 Marysville, California Gender:	Re: Even worth trying to fix? Reply #9 - 07/26/17 at 12:53:48 Post some better pictures of the cylinder and head. I want to see the top of the piston after you chisel all that scrap metal off. Did it run out of oil and swallow the valves?
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Re: Even worth trying to fix?
Reply #10 - 09/04/17 at 10:33:30

HillSavage wrote on 07/23/17 at 18:45:21:

Hey all,
Finally got into my motor, things do not look good. As you can see the melted valve on the piston. Any advice here? I don't have much money and the motors that I am seeing are like 6-800 bucks. Obi Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope. Any thoughts?

That looks almost as bad as what I am dealing with. P.O. got carried away with gasket goo and blocked all oil to the top end. But I found an engine from a low mileage wreck with a busted case. Low enough miles to have only had its first oil change before the accident. Swapped the cases and when finished I will have an essentially new engine.

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