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Shifting into 5th
06/26/17 at 21:03:12

Hey folks I have a question here on shifting into 5th gear. Seems when I do it I sometimes have to double shift with my foot to make sure it made the jump into 5th.

Maybe I'm not upshifting hard enough?, I dunno. Could it be that the upshift to 5th is shorter than the other gears? I make the shift at about 80 kilometers an hour and when downshifting I count the gears and I make 4 down shifts to get back to 1st.

Thoughts anyone?

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Re: Shifting into 5th
Reply #1 - 06/26/17 at 21:48:47

verslagen1 wrote on 08/13/15 at 12:21:02:

If your technique is a little wonkie, there'll be little hitches all throughout the pattern. Almost like it's not cooperating. but stroke her the right way...

best shift technique for me is a little up pressure before squeezing the lever.
a little squeeze and drop the throttle, the lever will jump into the next gear w/out fighting it.

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Re: Shifting into 5th
Reply #3 - 06/27/17 at 06:02:56

Crockett, you might want to grease the ball and socket joints in the shift levers arms under the foot pegs. See if that helps a little.

Mine has a bit of a double-position for 5th. Most of the time there is a second click but either click engages 5th. Hopefully, when it only hits the first click it's engaged enough that no edges are getting worn. It's never slipped out of 5th so I'm not sure why it has the double click. Anyone else have this?

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Re: Shifting into 5th
Reply #4 - 06/27/17 at 06:31:31

+1. I have the same issue that it seems I don't always catch 5th unless I am holding my mouth right. My joints are all greased, etc. It is just one of the nuances of this bike. I have never (knock on wood) had an issue with slippage in any gear.

I have just learned to manage it and get the clutch and throttle position in the right combination before I shift and 90% of the time it work fine.

Someone with a goot 'technical' explanation will come along.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28889 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Shifting into 5th Reply #5 - 06/27/17 at 09:04:28 Stew, I was having a hard time shifting up and an easy time shifting down until I moved the shifter arm 1 spline down (or up, don't remember). Could be something similar?
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Re: Shifting into 5th
Reply #6 - 06/27/17 at 12:05:30

I believe we all find fifth gear a little wonkie when shifting up ,I believe its because the difference in rpm is only about 250 higher than fourth,making the range that it will engage a smoothly a lot smaller than between any of the lower gears. I find the earlier you shift to 5th 45-50 the easier it goes in as compared to 55-65 .Closing the throttle a bit more than you think you need to, may make it easier.

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Papa Bear Senior Member Offline Posts: 476 Canada ... near the Motor City Gender:	Re: Shifting into 5th Reply #7 - 06/27/17 at 13:31:29 I always keep a little lift pressure on the shifter as I release the clutch .... in each gear.
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norm92de Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1180 El Paso TX Gender:	Re: Shifting into 5th Reply #8 - 06/27/17 at 13:36:23 Technique is something we all use to some extent or another. What I do is keep 'light' pressure on the lever until I feel the gear engage fully. seems to work for me.
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norm92de Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1180 El Paso TX Gender:	Re: Shifting into 5th Reply #9 - 06/27/17 at 13:38:24 I guess the previous post hadn't come up yet but, exactly.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28889 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Shifting into 5th Reply #10 - 06/27/17 at 13:51:53 norm92de wrote on 06/27/17 at 13:38:24: I guess the previous post hadn't come up yet but, exactly. Try posting softly.
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Tocsik Serious Thumper Offline the singularity Posts: 1163 Denver, CO Gender:	Re: Shifting into 5th Reply #11 - 06/27/17 at 14:36:51 verslagen1 wrote on 06/27/17 at 13:51:53: norm92de wrote on 06/27/17 at 13:38:24: I guess the previous post hadn't come up yet but, exactly. Try posting softly. Post softly but carry a big single
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norm92de Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1180 El Paso TX Gender:	Re: Shifting into 5th Reply #12 - 06/27/17 at 16:54:40 I'm just a slow typist.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Shifting into 5th Reply #13 - 06/27/17 at 17:08:27 Light pressure, off the gas, and click, on the gas.
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Re: Shifting into 5th
Reply #14 - 06/30/17 at 05:13:38

Only shifting issue I have had (other than normal bike characteristics that all bikes have) is when shifting down - as when coming to a stop. It feels like it has gone all the way down to first, but when I start out, I find that I am still in 2nd.

Going into second "feels" like downshifting into first for some reason. So, to compensate, I mentally count down each shift or I look for the green neutral light.

It also may help to be sure and wear solid shoes. I found that when I ride with softer (heavy running shoes, for example) I often have a harder time getting into next gear, especially upshifting.

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