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Berkeley =  ignorance or what?
04/21/17 at 05:10:13
 
How can a university square their actions with the goal that teaching is all about gathering and discerning information in a manner that should produce facts, or truth?
If you deny challenge to ANY perceived truth, or belief, how does that strengthen your argument or belief?

What is the left afraid of?

I guess ISIS is afraid of the infidel.
Hitler, what, afraid of Judaism?

Is any belief good if it produces fear upon which you must act upon others to quell it?
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Reply #1 - 04/21/17 at 05:58:10
 
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How can a university square their actions with the goal that teaching is all about gathering and discerning information in a manner that should produce facts, or truth?


Because that isn't really their "goal".

Understand that, and their actions make perfect sense.
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Reply #2 - 04/21/17 at 10:11:57
 
oldNslow wrote on 04/21/17 at 05:58:10:
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How can a university square their actions with the goal that teaching is all about gathering and discerning information in a manner that should produce facts, or truth?


Because that isn't really their "goal".

Understand that, and their actions make perfect sense.


Gee, if a dreamer can sue Trump, why can't we bring a class action lawsuit against the school for failure to provide a viable education?
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Reply #3 - 04/21/17 at 12:19:51
 
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Gee, if a dreamer can sue Trump, why can't we bring a class action lawsuit against the school for failure to provide a viable education?


I think you have to have a plaintiff or plaintiffs for a lawsuit. Have to find one of the moonbats that goes (or went) to school there that didn't think they got their moneys worth. That might not be easy to do. Cheesy  Cheesy
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Reply #4 - 04/21/17 at 13:43:03
 
oldNslow wrote on 04/21/17 at 12:19:51:
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Gee, if a dreamer can sue Trump, why can't we bring a class action lawsuit against the school for failure to provide a viable education?


I think you have to have a plaintiff or plaintiffs for a lawsuit. Have to find one of the moonbats that goes (or went) to school there that didn't think they got their moneys worth. That might not be easy to do. Cheesy  Cheesy


Well if Trump makes them have to go earn a living to be able to afford legal pot now, well, stranger things have happened  Grin
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Reply #5 - 04/21/17 at 18:07:13
 
"...why can’t we bring a class action lawsuit against the school for failure to provide a viable education?.."

That would be a very interesting case.

1. Prove, that you did Not know, that collage, did  NOT,  teach the, Facts.
2. Prove, that the ‘professors’, teaching, ’taught’,  ONLY,  ’their’,  POV, no others.
3. Prove, that that collage, ‘indoctrinated’, students to only ONE, POV.

Risk point:
Might draw a  Judge, who, ‘forced’, a  baker to bake a cake.

But, thinking it might be a possibility.
If it did occur.
Sure would not see it reported on, Chicken Noddle News.
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Reply #6 - 04/21/17 at 18:19:31
 
Forgot.
 “Observed  Reality”
is  NOT,  
‘Really,  ‘REAL”.

(As it applied to how some, Universities, teach.)
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Reply #7 - 04/22/17 at 06:01:35
 
Well maybe they could use the same complaint and spirit of the law that was brought against Trumpn University  Grin
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Reply #8 - 04/22/17 at 08:53:41
 
There is no rule that all points of view must be presented...
That would be stupid.
We don't teach flat earth... lizard people,.. creation,...
..and we don't teach hate...
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Reply #9 - 04/22/17 at 09:14:51
 
Not Teaching conservative views is one thing. Making the campus hostile to anyone who would dare speak in support of conservative ideas is quite another.
The violent protests by the Tawlurunt Ones, the assaults, the threats, the destruction of property, all because there is no willingness to debate. That's not tolerance, that's what a mentally deficient angry child does when they don't get their way. And WHY do people act like that? Because they KNOW that what they believe and want don't hold up to rational scrutiny. It's not what the Left RESORT to, it's Step ONE. They go Full Retard, either sucking a thumb, holding a stuffed animal, whimpering in the fetal position or throwing trash cans at people. Yeah, the Left are the intellectual and sophisticated, it's those knuckle dragging conservatives who are the problem.
I Told you people that the conservatives Would eventually swing on you. There have been a few punches returned. Expect a Buncha pushback. America is sick of the perpetual push to make reason and decency things of the past.
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Reply #10 - 04/22/17 at 09:58:31
 
Serowbot wrote on 04/22/17 at 08:53:41:
There is no rule that all points of view must be presented...
That would be stupid.
We don't teach flat earth... lizard people,.. creation,...
..and we don't teach hate...


WOW, just plain old amazing.....
They teach all those things depending on context.
But you call it stupid, is stupid in its face....
For as rightwing religious zealots judge folk based on their perception, so do you.
Not only that, it assumes America's thinking is paramount, all other civilizations, etc, must measured against such, failing that, we assign it stupid, primitive, dumb, etc.

Thanks for showing your contempt, the bookend of hate  Grin
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Reply #11 - 04/22/17 at 10:25:42
 
I'm sure they teach Nazism and anti-Semitism too... but not as a lifestyle choice...

You are taking me out of context...and you know it.


Do you really want your universities to teach science denial as an alternative to science?...
There is a global protest march happening today...
It's not Dem's vs Repub's,.. Lib's vs Conservatives...
It's the world,.. vs Trump's idiotic policies...
The world!!!!!....

There is an alternative to learning...
That's not learning...
Just don't go...  Huh

It's not Berkeley = ignorance..
It's Berkeley vs ignorance...
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Reply #12 - 04/22/17 at 11:44:32
 
Serowbot wrote on 04/22/17 at 10:25:42:
I'm sure they teach Nazism and anti-Semitism too... but not as a lifestyle choice...

You are taking me out of context...and you know it.


Do you really want your universities to teach science denial as an alternative to science?...
There is a global protest march happening today...
It's not Dem's vs Repub's,.. Lib's vs Conservatives...
It's the world,.. vs Trump's idiotic policies...
The world!!!!!....

There is an alternative to learning...
That's not learning...
Just don't go...  Huh

It's not Berkeley = ignorance..
It's Berkeley vs ignorance...


I am not talking Trump, or people's charges against him.
I have shared many times, Trump represents a symptom of what you call the "world", of their intolerance.
You give much credence to movements with assigning it value based on your beliefs and perspectives, a real forest through the tree scenario.
You once stated if a person was so removed from witnessing the US happenings for a year or so, they would have hard time discerning who won the election......
I agree, most folks live life on its own daily in a manner that does not involve them getting into political or social warfare.
You use Trump as some sort of bellwether to justify actions, and don't see that it runs counter to your desires.
It is no different than the religious right using biblical sin out of context to arm themselves into actions in the political and social arena.
Both believe their cause just, but fail to see they use the same rationale to justify that of which they find fault in others.
It's like a person who never loses an argument, in their mind.
They live a life seeing only challenges, not opportunities....

Who shall be the first to lay aside hate, perhaps even being a victim to death, so others can see the real effects of the needing to be right?

I am certain, someday, man will find he was wrong.
He will see it is better to give, than to take, but in doing so, he will receive.
He will find it was him, who withheld love for others at the cost of denying love for himself.
That pride offered nothing, but assured failure, when that was the only reason they had to continue.

You can have the last word if it pleases you, I have nothing further to add.
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Re: Berkeley =  ignorance or what?
Reply #13 - 04/22/17 at 12:02:34
 
Serowbot wrote on 04/22/17 at 10:25:42:
I'm sure they teach Nazism and anti-Semitism too... but not as a lifestyle choice...

You are taking me out of context...and you know it.


Do you really want your universities to teach science denial as an alternative to science?...
There is a global protest march happening today...
It's not Dem's vs Repub's,.. Lib's vs Conservatives...
It's the world,.. vs Trump's idiotic policies...
The world!!!!!....

There is an alternative to learning...
That's not learning...
Just don't go...  Huh

It's not Berkeley = ignorance..
It's Berkeley vs ignorance...



As always - very well stated!!!
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Reply #14 - 04/22/17 at 15:16:03
 
It's not Berkeley = ignorance..
It's Berkeley vs ignorance..

Bill says Berkely = Book Burning



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