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Not that this stuff really matters though, right?
04/12/17 at 15:46:36
 
Robert Reich puts tweety's promises and actions down pretty succinctly:

1. He said he wouldn’t bomb Syria. You bought it. Then he bombed Syria.

2. He said he'd build a wall along the border with Mexico. You bought it. Now his secretary of homeland security says "It’s unlikely that we will build a wall."

3. He said he’d clean the Washington swamp. You bought it. Then he brought into his administration more billionaires, CEOs, and Wall Street moguls than in any administration in history, to make laws that will enrich their businesses.

4. He said he’d repeal Obamacare and replace it with something “wonderful.” You bought it. Then he didn’t.

5. He said he’d use his business experience to whip the White House into shape. You bought it. Then he created the most chaotic, dysfunctional, back-stabbing White House in modern history, in which no one is in charge.

6. He said he’d release his tax returns, eventually. You bought it. He hasn’t, and says he never will.

7. He said he’d divest himself from his financial empire, to avoid any conflicts of interest. You bought it. He remains heavily involved in his businesses, makes money off of foreign dignitaries staying at his Washington hotel, gets China to give the Trump brand trademark and copyright rights, manipulates the stock market on a daily basis, and has more conflicts of interest than can even be counted.

8. He said Clinton was in the pockets of Goldman Sachs, and would do whatever they said. You bought it. Then he put half a dozen Goldman Sachs executives in positions of power in his administration.

9. He said he’d surround himself with all the best and smartest people. You bought it. Then he put Betsy DeVos, opponent of public education, in charge of education; Jeff Sessions, opponent of the Voting Rights Act, in charge of voting rights; Ben Carson, opponent of the Fair Housing Act, in charge of fair housing; Scott Pruitt, climate change denier, in charge of the Environmental Protection Agency; and Russian quisling Rex Tillerson as Secretary of State.

10. He said he’d faithfully execute the law. You bought it. Then he said his predecessor, Barack Obama, spied on him, without any evidence of Obama ever doing so, in order to divert attention from the FBI's investigation into collusion between his campaign and Russian operatives to win the election.

11. He said he knew more about strategy and terrorism than the generals did. You bought it. Then he promptly gave the green light to a disastrous raid in Yemen- even though all his generals said it would be a terrible idea. This raid resulted in the deaths of a Navy SEAL, an 8-year old American girl, and numerous civilians. The actual target of the raid escaped, and no useful intel was gained.

12. He called Barack Obama “the vacationer-in-Chief” and accused him of playing more rounds of golf than Tiger Woods. He promised to never be the kind of president who took cushy vacations on the taxpayer’s dime, not when there was so much important work to be done. You bought it. He has by now spent more taxpayer money on vacations than Obama did in the first 3 years of his presidency. Not to mention all the money taxpayers are spending protecting his family, including his two sons who travel all over the world on Trump business.

13. He called CNN, the Washington Post and the New York Times “fake news” and said they were his enemy. You bought it. Now he gets his information from Fox News, Breitbart, Gateway Pundit, and InfoWars.


Oh yeah - and it's only been about 11 weeks....  YAY!
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Reply #1 - 04/12/17 at 16:11:53
 
The good news?...
He's liberal Princess Ivanka's cuck... Grin
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Reply #2 - 04/12/17 at 18:27:51
 
Reich is a Clinton lackey and how about some documentation.....

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Reply #3 - 04/12/17 at 20:41:46
 
He called CNN, the Washington Post and the New York Times “fake news” and said they were his enemy. You bought it. Now he gets his information from Fox News, Breitbart, Gateway Pundit, and InfoWars.

And?
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Reply #4 - 04/13/17 at 05:02:10
 
I only have one major problem with what Trump has done so far. He went along with Paul Ryan's Obamacare replacement plan instead of doing what he said he'd do. I'll give him a pass on that one and chalk it up to a learning curve.

I don't give a crap about his tax returns for example and I don't know anyone other than partisan hacks who do.  Reich is an idiot and wouldn't know what most Americans think if it him him in the face. I've read his columns from time to time and have seen him talk. He's a less smart, less right, less attractive, less funny Ann Coulter.

The Syrian thing is worrisome. That's a giant $hithole, too easy to get sucks into. I don't subscribe to the "you break it, you own it" when you're the big dog, but if he can change his mind that quick because of  some pictures, Muslims will use that to taunt him into another sticky mess.

But i think he'll learn. Let's watch how he gets out of the Syrian mess.
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Reply #5 - 04/13/17 at 05:12:46
 
Well web, seems he found value in the UN now....
Maybe his business instincts tell him an asset is not to be wasted, no matter how small?
He appears to shoot from the hip, that gives me pause, I hope he learns to take the time to aim at his target, once it's been discerned.

You see how he stirs up the left media, etc, turning their emotions into fits....
But he needs to wise up and take the game up a notch, as the thief who just scored a grand haul thinks everyone else is out to steal it from them  Wink
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Reply #6 - 04/13/17 at 05:50:12
 
Speaking of my girl Ann, here's her latest:

LASSIE, COME HOME
April 12, 2017

War is like crack for presidents. It confers instant gravitas, catapulting them to respectability, bypassing all station stops. They get to make macho pronouncements on a topic where every utterance is seen as august.

On the other hand, Trump's Syrian misadventure is immoral, violates every promise he ran on and could sink his presidency.

Left to his own devices, uncontaminated by Washington group-think, Trump gets it right.

Back in 2013, when President Obama was being egged on to attack Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in response to an alleged chemical weapons attack far more sweeping than this latest one, Trump tweeted:

-- Aug. 29, 2013:

"What will we get for bombing Syria besides more debt and a possible long term conflict? Obama needs Congressional approval.”

-- Aug. 31, 2013:

"Be prepared, there is a small chance that our horrendous leadership could unknowingly lead us into World War III.”

-- Sept. 1, 2013:

"If the U.S. attacks Syria and hits the wrong targets, killing civilians, there will be worldwide hell to pay. Stay away and fix broken U.S.”

On the campaign trail, Trump repeatedly stated that he had no interest in starting "World War III over Syria," saying, "We have bigger problems than Assad." His policy position was: "Let Syria and ISIS fight. I look at Assad -- and Assad looks better than the other side.”

Trump was right on every point.

Assad is one of the least bad leaders in the entire Middle East. He's not a murderous thug like Saddam, has no rape rooms, isn't into jihad, protects Christians and is fighting ISIS. He provided us with intelligence on al-Qaida after 9/11. He does not have crazy Islamic police slapping women around or throwing gays off buildings. (That would be our beloved ally, Saudi Arabia.)

Trump was also correct about Assad's opponents being far worse, containing large helpings of both ISIS and al-Qaida.


As awful as it was to see those dead children, Trump knew that America’s first duty is to our own children.

We have never succeeded at turning a Third World dictatorship into a paradise. The history of these things is that removing a Middle Eastern strongman always makes things worse -- for example, in Iran, Iraq, Libya and Egypt.

We leap in, thinking we're helping the poor devils under the thumb of a dictator -- and then the new tribe takes over and oppresses everyone else, usually much more brutally, while hating us even more than the old tribe did.

If voters wanted more Middle Eastern wars, there were plenty of other candidates offering that: Marco Rubio, Lindsey Graham, Carly Fiorina and Hillary Clinton, for example. And we must never forget Jeb! though it proved surprisingly easy to do so in 2016.

But we picked Trump.

While most of the left wailed about the return of Nazi Germany under Trump, savvier liberals saw his vulnerability: flattery. All we have to do is praise him! You'll be shocked at how easy it is.

And, boy, did they lay it on thick with the Syrian misadventure. No sucker's bait was left on the floor. Cable news hosts gushed, "Trump became president of the United States tonight!" On MSNBC, Brian Williams called the bombing "beautiful" three times in less than a minute. Sen. Lindsey Graham (one of the "women of the Senate," according to Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg) compared Trump to Reagan. The New York Times headlined an article, "On Syria Attack, Trump's Heart Came First.”

My nightmare scenario: Trump and Jared watching TV together and high-fiving: DID YOU SEE THE NEWS! THEY LOVE YOU! All Trump had to do was pointlessly bomb another country, and it was as if a genie had granted his every wish.

Looking for some upside to this fiasco, desperate Trump supporters bleated that bombing Assad had sent a message to North Korea. Yes, the message is: The Washington establishment is determined to manipulate the president into launching counterproductive military strikes. Our enemies -- both foreign and domestic -- would be delighted to see our broken country further weaken itself with pointless wars.

Was America strengthened by the Iraq War? The apparently never-ending Afghanistan War? Vietnam? This is how great powers die, which is exactly what the left wants.

Administration policy was heading in the wrong direction at 90 mph, but thank God, Trump seems to have grabbed the steering wheel and hit the brakes. Notwithstanding the hopes and dreams of Clausewitzian military strategist Nikki Haley, we will not be engaging in regime change in Syria or starting World War III with Russia today.

We want the "president of America" back -- not "the president of the world.”
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Reply #7 - 04/13/17 at 06:10:17
 
It's been 3 1/3 months. Give it a minute.


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Reply #8 - 04/13/17 at 07:26:03
 
Still waiting for Trumpie to lock Hillary up. Just another line of BS out of him. He's the worst. Angry
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Reply #9 - 04/13/17 at 07:50:08
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 04/12/17 at 20:41:46:
He called CNN, the Washington Post and the New York Times “fake news” and said they were his enemy. You bought it. Now he gets his information from Fox News, Breitbart, Gateway Pundit, and InfoWars.

And?


And... if you're cool with that... lol - well, you do you.

FYI - infowars' a-hole jones is certifiably nuts.  "clinton and obama smell of sulfur"..?  "the devil is coming"...?

Yeah - trustworthy "news" sites...
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Reply #10 - 04/13/17 at 07:52:55
 
pg wrote on 04/12/17 at 18:27:51:
Reich is a Clinton lackey and how about some documentation.....

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Documentation?  Hmmm... well... I heard about this thing called "the internet".  On it, they have hundreds of verifiable documents, reports, first hand accounts - oh, and video of tweety saying and doing all of the things mentioned.

You should go see for yourself.

LOL - smh
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Reply #11 - 04/13/17 at 10:02:20
 
Reich is another mouth spewing whatever it needs to to drive the Dumbmasses happily toward the goals of the establishment. Look at the DIRECTION of America. Who is suggesting Policy CHANGE that will change the trajectory?
Yeah, you buncha brainiacs , I was Told to ask that.
I didn't BECOME who I am because someone Other than CNN told me to.
Jones didn't make me believe anything.
I Questioned the whole fukking THING from the time I was just a little boy. I, ME, I,did not believe the things I was told, because the things I saw didn't fit with what I was told. After enough years passed, it's admitted that the Vietnam war was based on lies. I've been able to find books that explain the hows and whys, but, the ones who need to read them won't.

They won't read the article by Ann Coulter, because it's By Ann Coulter.

ssad is one of the least bad leaders in the entire Middle East. He's not a murderous thug like Saddam, has no rape rooms, isn't into jihad, protects Christians and is fighting ISIS.

protects Christians and is fighting ISIS.

protects Christians and is fighting ISIS.


protects Christians and is fighting ISIS.


Now you know Why Assad is bad.
Isn't it strange that America, with it's CIA, spy satellites and the Biggest, Most EXPENSIVE military on the Planet can't find the training camps, supply lines, and encampments of the enemy?

Gee, Wally, howcumizzat?

Well, Beve, just because someone Says someone is an enemy doesn't mean it's true.

So, America, for Some Reason, wants Assad gone. Who is giving him grief?
And I am supposed to believe that We would want to see those who are attacking him, stopped? Can nobody else see how the establishment is setting it up?

Okay, guys, quiz time on WAR.
You have chemical weapons and you're so ticked off that you're thinking about using them.

Do you have enough to attack and follow up with a ground assault and Win it?
Do you only have enough to
Piss people off because you killed innocents?
People, THINK.
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Reply #12 - 04/13/17 at 15:48:53
 
T And T Garage wrote on 04/13/17 at 07:52:55:
Documentation?  Hmmm... well... I heard about this thing called "the internet".  On it, they have hundreds of verifiable documents, reports, first hand accounts


And you are unable to post a single one to support any of your arguments.   Roll Eyes

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Reply #13 - 04/14/17 at 10:08:10
 
pg wrote on 04/13/17 at 15:48:53:
T And T Garage wrote on 04/13/17 at 07:52:55:
Documentation?  Hmmm... well... I heard about this thing called "the internet".  On it, they have hundreds of verifiable documents, reports, first hand accounts


And you are unable to post a single one to support any of your arguments.   Roll Eyes

Best regards,


Don't be so lazy...  Do a little work on your own, huh?

But I'll throw you one bone:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/us/politics/donald-trump-syria-twitter.htm...

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Reply #14 - 04/14/17 at 10:11:32
 
(I don't mind an honest criticism. First shot, dead on.
Were you as able to see Obama's hypocrisy?
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